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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; kosta50; Quix; HarleyD; kawaii; jo kus
In fact, many of Augustine's ideas are agreed to by today's Protestants, so I reject any idea or suggestion that Luther, Calvin, et al., just "made it all up" in the 16th century.

The Scriptural basis for our understanding of election is a direct threat to the power the RCC claims to have. So it's not surprising that during the dark ages, when church and state were merged, that any open discussion about it would not be allowed.

After all you can't have a bunch of people running around believing they are saved without the church controlling the process. ;-0

13,807 posted on 05/02/2007 7:13:16 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: wmfights

After all you can’t have a bunch of people running around believing they are saved without the church controlling the process. ;-0
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VERY well put.

That old business about power corrupting . . . can’t get much more powerful than combining church and state.


13,808 posted on 05/02/2007 7:20:47 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: wmfights
After all you can't have a bunch of people running around believing they are saved without the church controlling the process. ;-0

Amen! Ain't it the truth.

14,446 posted on 05/10/2007 1:25:34 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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