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To: Kolokotronis; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; kosta50
In the days before the Great Schism, and long before you guys showed up, The Church forbade catechumens from reading +John because his theology was deemed too complex.

What a fascinating piece of information, Kolokotronis! But why do you "tend to agree with those old timers?" John is a man after my own heart -- and clearly, you love him too.

Yet to love John does not mean one ought to disparage Paul. They look pretty "complementary" to me: Both reveal God's Truth.

Thank you ever so much for the link to +John Chrysostomos!

13,686 posted on 04/28/2007 12:56:57 PM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein.)
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To: betty boop

“But why do you “tend to agree with those old timers?”

+John’s theology is very complex and relies on concepts which were not back then, nor for that matter now, part of the knowledge base of the average person. We see this even here on FR, though in great measure that is as a result of truly awful English translations of his gospel. In the early Church the laity were both allowed and encouraged to read +John after baptism and chrismation but even then only under the guidance of a spiritual father for some time.

“Yet to love John does not mean one ought to disparage Paul.”

No, of course not. My antipathy for +Paul is sui generis! :)

“Thank you ever so much for the link to +John Chrysostomos!”

You are welcome. I tell people who are about to get married to read Homily XX...as I was directed to read it many years ago.


13,687 posted on 04/28/2007 1:11:25 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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