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To: Forest Keeper
I wrote: Magnetism exists. Yet, it occupies no space or takes up no mass. It is an effect on the visible universe.

You responded: In grammar school we are taught that nouns are persons, places, things, or ideas. I am only talking about the first three. I think of Magnetism as a description of a relationship between two or more "things". For the purposes of this discussion, I don't think ideas qualify as "things" in existence.

Magnetism is a force that is applied to an object. This effect, then, exists. Is it a thing? No. But it is a state of existence, which is what we are talking about. I disagree. Using your own terms, you appear to be saying God is more like an effect rather than a cause, in and of Himself. I contend that a cause requires space, not necessarily in a dimension observable to us.

Magnetism is not an effect, it is a cause of an effect. You are confused in what I am saying.

What is the difference between "state of existence" and "place", if "place" can include other dimensions?

A place suggests a physical location. Where would you suggest heaven be located? Is God there but not somewhere else?

Again, this is all speculation and attempts to work out the intellect of our faith - called theology. Rightly, we really don't know what the after-life will be like. Perhaps we are quibbling over an undefinable thing.

Regards

13,618 posted on 04/26/2007 2:12:49 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: jo kus
A place suggests a physical location. Where would you suggest heaven be located? Is God there but not somewhere else?

I was suggesting that it could be right in front of us, but imperceivable. Such might be the case for us as compared to a 2-dimensional man "living" on a plane. Carrying out the idea, God could be (is) all around us, but not perceivable physically.

Again, this is all speculation and attempts to work out the intellect of our faith - called theology. Rightly, we really don't know what the after-life will be like. Perhaps we are quibbling over an undefinable thing.

I agree completely. It's just a fun mental exercise. I like it because it is so way over my head. :)

13,999 posted on 05/05/2007 1:22:42 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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