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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl; Quix; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan; HarleyD
So do you think all those things occurred by happenstance? Do you think God rolls the dice and lets them fall where they may?

No, but He doesn't live in the past either. He very much changes our destines, based on our decisions.

Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the gentiles

Neat way to put it. Except it doesn't say WHY was it necessary to give the faith to those knowing they would repeatedly reject it and, when God stood in front of them, they would trade Him for a criminal, and would persecute His Church and throw His followers out of synagogues, and since Jamnia curse the Jesus of Nazareth.

Come on, Dr. E, if you were a Church elder in those days, you'd be scrambling to justify what was never the initial mission of Christ, for He leaves no doubt that He was "sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." [Mat 15:24] and He prohibited His disciples from going to the Gentiles [cf Mat 10:5-6]

Clearly, and understandably, given the dating of the Gospels, and Acts, and what transpired in Israel with the Church and with the Temple, the mission of the church had to seek new home, as it was no longer sustainable in Israel.

13,584 posted on 04/25/2007 9:22:37 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears; behold, I will add fifteen years to your life. [Isa 38:5]

Do you think God was surprised by the prayer, that God did not know of the tears and that only after seeing them did He decided to add 15 years?

"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him." -- Matthew 6:7-8


13,594 posted on 04/25/2007 11:23:42 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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