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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50; Quix; HarleyD; kawaii; jo kus

“Of course the key word is “foreknowledge”. By my search, the Greek word is “prognosis”, which doesn’t add much, but the word THAT comes from is “proginosko” (Strong’s NT:4267) which means “to ordain”, not just to foreknow something outside of one’s control. This supports what I believe to be the much greater weight of evidence that predestination and election are wholly sovereign acts of God, before the foundations.”

The root of the word, FK, is not “proginosko” but rather simply “gnosis”, knowledge, nothing more than that. “Proginosko” comes from the verb genomai, to become.

The Protestant notion of election advanced here on this thread was unknown for 1500 years after Pentecost. It is a revisionist notion quite diconnected from the Greek NT save in the spin of the likes of Strong.


13,518 posted on 04/25/2007 3:34:59 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50; Quix; HarleyD; kawaii; jo kus
The Protestant notion of election advanced here on this thread was unknown for 1500 years after Pentecost. It is a revisionist notion quite disconnected from the Greek NT save in the spin of the likes of Strong.

No, the Protestant notion of election has been REJECTED by YOUR Church for the vast majority of years since Pentecost. Neither of us can say to what degree it was believed by the people or not until the Reformation. Augustine, who couldn't have been a lone wolf, absolutely put forth the idea, and I assume that counts as being "known". In fact, many of Augustine's ideas are agreed to by today's Protestants, so I reject any idea or suggestion that Luther, Calvin, et al., just "made it all up" in the 16th century.

As to the "spin" of Strong's, as you say, you are in a minority. Strong's is the most widely used and respected Christian concordance of the KJV in the entire world.

13,805 posted on 05/02/2007 3:54:23 AM PDT by Forest Keeper
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