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To: HarleyD

"Whether Mary was a perpetual virgin or not is really a very minor point IMO. If I were to declare tomorrow that I thought Mary was a perpetual virgin it wouldn't change any of my other beliefs."

You know, during this thread I have wondered the same thing but of course presuming that I were to conclude that she wasn't "ever virgin". I have concluded that it wouldn't change what I feel about her at all, but I'm not sure that means much. I have grown up and lived in a religious culture which taught me about her from before I can remember. I have no recollection of not having her icons around. I have no recollection of not thinking of her as my mother. As I told another Freeper today, she has always been there for me in those "fox holes of life", ever since I was a very homesick 14 year old away from home at prep school to today when I saw her icon when I got up from bed and later sat at a desk in the office with her icon directly in front of me. I can be pretty grown up and educated about patristics and The Faith in most areas, but when it comes to her, well, I'm still that 14 year old homesick kid. I doubt I'll ever change.


1,350 posted on 12/13/2006 6:37:31 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; HarleyD

Your last posts remind me of what I felt as a convert to Catholicism.

It seemed there was a vast richness and fullness, a depth and a fitting together of all things in Catholicism.

And it made me see my many years in Protestantism, in different Churches, as taking off on one aspect and expanding it - but lacking in the depth and richness of the whole.

To me, Protestant Churches seem varieties of Catholic Lite, and a driving motive in each a striving toward minimalism. "What is the least..."

I think the same is true of Mary in the differences shown here on this thread.

FWIW.


1,355 posted on 12/13/2006 7:34:21 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: Kolokotronis
As I told another Freeper today, she has always been there for me in those "fox holes of life", ever since I was a very homesick 14 year old away from home at prep school to today when I saw her icon when I got up from bed and later sat at a desk in the office with her icon directly in front of me. I can be pretty grown up and educated about patristics and The Faith in most areas, but when it comes to her, well, I'm still that 14 year old homesick kid.

And this is precisely the problem my friend. When a angel appeared to John, and John fell on his face to worship, the angel told him to worship God alone. Our focus should be on Him; nothing else.

1,374 posted on 12/14/2006 2:18:59 AM PST by HarleyD ("You in Your mercy have led forth the people which You have redeemed." Ex 15:13)
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