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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl
The teachings of Derek Prince work something along the lines you are discussing, i.e., that there is “the filling of the Holy Spirit,” at regeneration (conviction of sin, repentance, coming to belief), and then “the baptism in the Holy Spirit” at some later point, with Power from on High (the giftings and workings of/for Elohim, see 1 Corinthians 12-14).

I personally experienced this as one event, though I am still "growing up into Him Who Is My Head," but obviously we are all uniquely made, and God our Creator, who knew us before forming us in the womb, knows just what each one of us requires to come to and walk by faith, and that is His desire, "that we know Him, and Jesus Christ Whom He has sent, for this is Eternal Life." Gifts can be given, but until they are received they are of no consequence. God, the Father of Lights, is "the giver of every good and perfect gift," as well as the One who "gives sight to the blind," and "opens ears."

Love to you both in Christ Our King.

13,322 posted on 04/23/2007 2:21:12 AM PDT by .30Carbine (We need a downpour: Come like the rain!)
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To: .30Carbine; Alamo-Girl
Thank you, .30carbine. Frankly I don't know who Derek Prince is. What I am getting from your statement "Gifts can be given, but until they are received they are of no consequence" is in reference to Christ receiving the Spirit at His baptism.

Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are eternally connected. There is no time when the Word, in Flesh or not, receives the Spirit.

Christ's baptism, by the way, is another issue. He Who was without sin had nothing to repent for. That whole section treats Christ as man and not God and Man in one Person.

13,331 posted on 04/23/2007 6:55:36 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: .30Carbine
Thank you so much for sharing your testimony and insights!

I was filled with the Spirit in the beginning when I first heard my Master's call - and then I quenched Him for a number of years - repented, surrendered and was filled again.

Self-will is a snare. If we want to do it "our way" - He'll let us, and we'll fail.

13,339 posted on 04/23/2007 7:51:43 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: .30Carbine

Was blessed for more than a year at a home church that had Derek Prince come and hold a series of classes before my joining.

Kind of got excessive at some point about seeing a demon under every chair and incident but he still had a lot on the ball in terms of his discernment and teachings.


13,352 posted on 04/23/2007 9:18:42 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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