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To: Quester
Israel ... of the twelve tribes.

I don't know of any other woman but Mary who gave birth to Christ, and that is the woman Apocalypse 12 is talking about (see verses 5, 10). She is, of course, the embodiment and perfection of Israel, so your meaning is indeed typologically not incorrect. Another typology there is the Church of Christ.

The anger that marian devotions evoke in the enemies of the Church is evident on every thread like this one. Satan hates Mary because unlike Eve, she chose to do God's will.

The birth pangs described in Apoc. 12:2 are indeed a good reason not to subscribe tot he notion that the Virgin did not suffer the birth pains. Rome does not teach either way. However, note that the entire book of Apocalypse is highly metaphorical and so it is not illogical to see in verse 2 not a reference to physiological pain but rather to the pain of mankind groaning under sin and waiting for the Redeemer.

The Twelve stars are type of the tribes of Israel as well as the twelve apostles.

1,312 posted on 12/13/2006 8:02:30 AM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
The anger that marian devotions evoke in the enemies of the Church is evident on every thread like this one. Satan hates Mary because unlike Eve, she chose to do God's will.

Exactly. "And I will put enmity between you [Satan] and the woman" (Gen 3:15)

Satan hates Mary also because of envy. Mary is now the most exalted creature, a place Lucifer once had.

-A8

1,318 posted on 12/13/2006 8:28:48 AM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: annalex
Israel ... of the twelve tribes.

I don't know of any other woman but Mary who gave birth to Christ, ...


As you said ... Revelation is highly metaphorical.

Perhaps we can agree on that. ;^)

1,323 posted on 12/13/2006 9:00:31 AM PST by Quester
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