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To: fortheDeclaration
Thus, H20 always forms water and can be tested and proven

You just like to argue for the sake of argument? Of course H2O always forms water. The formula for H2O, the atoms are part of that working model.

But atoms and electrons are not little 'balls' as they are depicted. They can be represented as such for various reasons, and they behave as if they were bouncy little balls for us to be able to visualize them.

Christ ascended into the heavens, which means He went up and when He returns, He will descend

You are amazing! What's up in Israel is down in Australia. just where "up" is the heaven? And how is Christ sitting to the "right" of the Father when the Father is a Spirit. These are allegorical, not literal descriptions.

So? That does not contradict the Genesis account at all.

Yes, they are older then the earth.

It would seem that your Church has a better understanding on this than you do

I am willing to believe that too, but their teaching is not as convincing as it should be.

12,865 posted on 04/16/2007 4:06:31 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
Thus, H20 always forms water and can be tested and proven You just like to argue for the sake of argument? Of course H2O always forms water. The formula for H2O, the atoms are part of that working model.

No, but the scientific method proves that H2O always becomes water.

But atoms and electrons are not little 'balls' as they are depicted. They can be represented as such for various reasons, and they behave as if they were bouncy little balls for us to be able to visualize them.

And what has that to do with the correct scientific method?

Either science can prove something or it can't with its own experiential method.

What it can't prove with that method it can only hypothesize about.

Christ ascended into the heavens, which means He went up and when He returns, He will descend

You are amazing! What's up in Israel is down in Australia. just where "up" is the heaven? And how is Christ sitting to the "right" of the Father when the Father is a Spirit. These are allegorical, not literal descriptions.

No, it is amazing that anyone could actually believe what you do!

Christ went up from Jerusalem and will come down to Jerusalem

Yes, the 'right hand' is a metaphorical expression for the seat of power, but Christ is in heaven with the Father on a real throne.

So? That does not contradict the Genesis account at all.

Yes, they are older then the earth.

And Genesis never states how old the Universe is, only that the creation on the earth occurred in six days.

It would seem that your Church has a better understanding on this than you do

I am willing to believe that too, but their teaching is not as convincing as it should be.

Well, it seems we have come full circle to where this discussion began.

I stated that you had no authority over you except your own opinion.

And that is clearly the truth, since you reject scripture and your own Church's views and any other evidence that goes against the opinions you have decided upon.

12,888 posted on 04/17/2007 2:05:39 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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