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To: annalex; blue-duncan; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; jo kus; redgolum; xzins
annalex to blue-duncan: If you consider step fathering the Savior a tort of fraud is up to you, but your argument still doesn't make any scriptural sense

BD, what do you call God's plan to have David kill his general so that David can marry the general's wife? Premeditated murder?

Can we apply human law to Scripture and judge it? Can we cry "it's not fair?" Can we say it violates "human rights?" I think the absurdity of "lawyering" the Scripture is self-evident; or at least it should be.

1,278 posted on 12/13/2006 5:35:36 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; annalex; blue-duncan; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; jo kus; xzins
BD, what do you call God's plan to have David kill his general so that David can marry the general's wife? Premeditated murder? Can we apply human law to Scripture and judge it? Can we cry "it's not fair?" Can we say it violates "human rights?" I think the absurdity of "lawyering" the Scripture is self-evident; or at least it should be.

I think it was Milton, who said that God will do as He wills, and we can't judge him for it. God is good, and operates on a whole different level than we do, so applying human laws to God is a bit silly.

1,287 posted on 12/13/2006 6:10:05 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: kosta50; annalex; Forest Keeper; P-Marlowe; Kolokotronis; jo kus; redgolum; xzins

Oh, I get it now. I see where my mistake was. I was reading Matthew from the KJV instead of reading it from a Herrew/Aramaic translation into Greek and then into English. When we do that we get,

"And the angel appeared unto Joseph and said, 'I got some good news for you and bad news.' And Joseph said, 'give me the good news first.' 'Right,' the angel said, You're going to marry a young virgin but she is pregnant'. 'That's good news', Joseph asked? 'Yup, that's the good news', the angel replied. 'If that's the good news what's the bad', asked Joseph. She's going to be an eternal virgin and you can never have sexual relations with her nor can you ever touch her since she is holy'. 'Why didn't you tell me this before I got betrothed, whatever that means?' asked Joseph. 'Cause we wanted to see if you would go through with the betrothal before we told you about the plan. It's a free-will kind of thing.' said the angel, 'very hush-hush.'"

There, I think I got it now.


1,291 posted on 12/13/2006 6:21:48 AM PST by blue-duncan
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