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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50; betty boop; marron; hosepipe; cornelis
Very well said, dear Kolokotronis!

My usual example of the phenomenon on this forum is the never-ending debate over predestination v. free will, which is to say that Aristotle's law of the excluded middle cannot be applied to God. He gives us both prophesy (and fulfilled prophesy) - and commandments. It is not an either/or.

12,724 posted on 04/15/2007 11:30:56 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

” My usual example of the phenomenon on this forum is the never-ending debate over predestination v. free will,....”

That’s an excellent example of what I am talking about. In the theology of the Greek Fathers, there is no conflict at all between free will as an element of our natures as being created in the image of God and what scripture says about what the West calls predestination. Creating a mutual exclusivity as between the two is the result of all sorts of influences, all human I might add. Aristotelian logic is one of them. On the one hand, we attempt to apply human logic to explain, without actually fully understanding, divine purpose while on the other we use that same logic to deny that we are created in the image of God by denying free will. Conversely we can accept, logically, that as beings created in the image of God we ipso facto have free will and at the same time exclude the possibility of election at some point as the subject of divine foreknowledge.


12,728 posted on 04/15/2007 11:48:04 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Alamo-Girl
It is not an either/or.

INDEED.

Then, the enemy further pollutes the well by messing parenting up so much for so many that we/they grow up with intense obsessive compulsive needs to try and cram God into tiny tidy white little FIERCELY EITHER/OR boxes

. . .

which, of course, are different than a long list of brothers and sisters that are suspected intensely of NOT being brothers and sisters because they don't FIT into OUR particularly tiny tidy whitey little FIERCELY EITHER/OR boxes . . . .

Therefore, the enemy wins again because such hostile perspectives offer little possibility of unbelievers knowing we are Christians by our love.


12,740 posted on 04/15/2007 1:43:09 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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