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To: kosta50

I do occasionaly ask saints to intercede though never as a replacement for praying to God, simply as an extra. I posted a few official insights on this before that basically we don’t know the mechanism however that the church beleives that somehow these requests for intercessions do get to the Saints in heaven.

I find it interesting also that some Saints are said to have pretty strongly affected things on earth after their death, for instance most of St George’s feats occured after he died (the slaying of the dragon for instance).

I think in general that in veneration we’re not venerating the personhood of the saint (nor the picture/representation physically etc) but rather the Godliness of their Saintly actions; the little peice in what they did here and in heaven which is the mark of God.


12,334 posted on 04/10/2007 7:57:15 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii
I do occasionaly ask saints to intercede though never as a replacement for praying to God, simply as an extra. I posted a few official insights on this before that basically we don’t know the mechanism however that the church beleives that somehow these requests for intercessions do get to the Saints in heaven

That is possible, but it is not revealed. My point is that the Saints pray for us regardless, even more so in the Church Triumphant than on earth.

I find it interesting also that some Saints are said to have pretty strongly affected things on earth after their death, for instance most of St George’s feats occured after he died (the slaying of the dragon for instance)

Let me just say that I do not believe in miracles that are presented as some voodoo magic. The universe itself is a miracle. Life on earth is a miracle. Miracles presented as magic should not be the source of our faith (as it seems to be in the OT and the Gospels). Faith comes from God, manifested by His presence in the Creation, not magic.

There are 92 moons, maybe mnore, circling our solar system's planets. We may or may not ever visit them, but the rest of the universe exists for us to see and not touch, admire but not own. The breath-taking beauty of nature is ours to admire and to be in awe of God's Creation, to remind us of God's power, architecture and artistry. And His revelation to us is the manifestation of His love.

We can glorify Him, and Him only for all that, remembering that the blessed Saints are His creation as well.

12,336 posted on 04/10/2007 9:44:08 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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