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To: kosta50
I never did accept or condone asking the Theotokos to save us. I never believed she can save us. I never believed she wants us to believe that she can save us.

Amen. 1Tim.2:5.

12,176 posted on 04/02/2007 4:48:51 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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To: fortheDeclaration
Amen. 1Tim.2:5

Theotokos was never commissioned or empowered to heal or to do miracles, let alone save us.

If her sanctity in the Church is higher than that of the angels, and it is, it is nevertheless lower than than that of God.

If she shines brighter than any of us, and she does, her luster pales next to God's glory.

She was commissioned to put forth a miracle of Incarnate God, Who saved us. She accepted it in perfect obedience and humility.

Saying "Thank you, thank you, thank you; we revere you, O Theotokos, our Blessed Mother and model and saint," is one thing. It's an altogether a different thing to say "Save us" (Supplicatory Canon of the EOC) or "Glory to three." (+Basil's Divine Liturgy)

That makes me a "black sheep" among my fellow EOs and RCs. But I believe they know that, deep in their hearts, they are too.

The EOC, for a good reason I believe, never went beyond the only dogma formulated about the Theotokos in the (undivided) Church.

12,179 posted on 04/02/2007 5:37:37 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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