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To: jo kus
Until you can explain why James disagrees with your notion of salvation, I have nothing more to say. I have no desire to argue like a child about this. Regards

James doesn't disagree with Paul's view of salvation, since James isn't talking about salvation.

Who is arguing like a child, I have given you scriptural proof of what James is saying.

You have read into James your own RCC theology, thinking a 'dead faith' must mean that a person is not saved.

James never speaks of salvation being by works, he speaks of salvation being shown by works.

So, faith without works is dead, but that has nothing to do with a person's eternal salvation, only his 'fruit' production.

Stop reading into James that which isn't there.

A person can kill his own faith, but cannot kill the eternal life that is in him.(2Tim.2:13)

I guess that means the believer has (gasp!)-eternal security!

12,123 posted on 03/28/2007 5:17:51 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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To: fortheDeclaration
James doesn't disagree with Paul's view of salvation, since James isn't talking about salvation

Well, I agree that Paul and James do not disagree, but James IS talking about salvation. It is YOU who are having issues...

What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? James 2:14

Why can't you just read what is there? What is the problem? Why are you so stubborn about this? Isn't it clear that James IS talking about salvation????

You need to remember that revelation is from God - not from our own private interpretations. WE need to change, not God.

Regards

12,125 posted on 03/28/2007 7:56:36 AM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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