And your attempts to avoid dealing with what Paul wrote will not make it go away either.
You cannot deal with the clear scripture that Paul lays out and states.
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. James 2:17 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? James 2:20-22
Yes, the works showed His faith, it did not add anything to it.
Works reveal what kind of faith you have, they do not mix with the faith to save you.
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26
Yes, it is not producing any works, so the Lord has to remove that believer,
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away (Jn.15:2)
Do you actually think that dead faith saves???!!!
Faith that is dead doesn't produce fruit, but it was once alive (hence is now dead), and did result in the seed of God being implanted in the believer for salvation (1Pe.1:23) that is incorruptible.
Unfruitful Christians are judged and disciplined (Gal.6,Heb.13,1Jn.5) even to the point of death (Acts 5), but they are still saved since works did not add to their salvation, it is by faith that one is saved.
No matter what sort of phony theological explanation you come up with, you are NOT going to be able to ignore the FACT that the Bible ITSELF says that one is a "vain man" who believes one is saved by faith WITHOUT works.
No, the Bible says that one is saved by faith without works very clearly in Rom.4.
The Bible never says that ones salvation is dependent on works at all.
The Catholic Church teaches the Truth. You are not teaching the Truth according to the entire bible. Be careful, because the NT has some interesting words for those who are teachers of false doctrine like you are passing off.
As I said, you guys give me a laugh!
James says nothing about salvation in that entire chapter, it speaks of showing ones faith by ones works, not that works do anything for salvation.
Even the note in your own RCC bible states that,
The theme of these verses is the relationship of faith and works (deeds). It has been argued that the teaching here contradicts that of Paul (espically Rom.4,5-6). The problem can only be understood if the different viewpoints of the two authors are seen. Paul argues against those who claim to participate in God's salvation because of their good deeds as well as because they have committed themselves in trust in God through Jesus Christ (Paul's concept of faith)....The author of James is well aware that proper conduct can only come about with an authentic commitment to God in faith....
Nothing is said about works adding to faith.
If you don't have the works, your faith is dead (not productive), but that doesn't mean you are spiritually lost if you had a living faith once,
If we believe not yet he abibeth faithful: he cannot deny himself. (2Tim.2:13).
You have distorted what James has said and have ignored what Paul said (as I predicted you would)
Sorry, but I began this "there is no faith alone" by stating James 2 as my evidence. You answer James by going to Paul? And I am having avoidance issues???
Listen. I certainly CAN explain what Paul wrote. I have done so many times on this very forum. However, the Bible clearly explains the issue in James. Why waste energy trying to prove something from Paul when it is so clearly written in James??? Why waste my time when James says it in ONE SENTENCE that you are wrong!
Here is another reason. Here is what Peter says regarding St. Paul...
"...our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16
Why try to argue from difficult Scriptures that can be twisted, even during the time of Peter, when Scriptures MORE CLEARLY settles the issue by VERY CLEARLY AND FORCEFULLY SAYING THAT ONE IS NOT SAVED BY FAITH ALONE in James!!!!
All you are doing is "twisting Scriptures to YOUR DESTRUCTION". That's right. Your false teachings is leading you and anyone who follows you to destruction. That can't be a good thing...
Give up the charade and the smoke and mirrors. Read the Bible and follow it when it clearly says we are not saved by faith alone. ADJUST YOUR INTERPRETATIONS OF PAUL! Paul and James share the same inspiration - God. God is not a God of confusion. Thus, when God clearly tells us we are not saved by faith alone - and God tells us that Paul's writings CAN be twisted and distorted, WHY ON EARTH DO YOU KEEP TRYING TO GO BACK TO PAUL WHILE IGNORING JAMES?
There can be only one answer - you can't admit you are wrong.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? James 2:20
What more do you want? These verses are the "two by four to the head"! I have other things to do. Please do not bother me with your false teachings that twist things and bring people to their destruction. I am not in the mood to argue about such obvious issues...
I will pray for you that you realize that God's Word tells us that we are saved by a living faith, one with works of love.