[fortheDeclaration]

Laugh all you like. I'm interested in conversation, and I see only taunts. From the very first page of this thread, where we were characterized as demon worshippers and idolaters, right up to now I have "felt the love" and I've had enough, thanks. As James says, more or less, Laugh now, weep later.

So you aren't going to address what Paul says either?

I guess my 'laughter' was justified.

As for weeping later, I know I am saved and if I died I would go directly to be in the presence of the Lord-do you?

These things have I written unto you that believe in the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God (1Jn.5:13)

You will note the absence of works in the passage for eternal life.

John speaks of the results of the lack of works later in vs.16 when he speaks of the 'sin unto death'.

[Mad Dawg]

So you aren't going to address what Paul says either?

Ping me again when you've read the thread. Until then, please leave me alone.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

As for weeping later, I know I am saved and if I died I would go directly to be in the presence of the Lord-do you?

Amen! We have His promise that at the moment of our death we will join Him in heaven because Christ has already paid for every sin His children have committed or will ever commit. By the grace of God alone.

"But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." -- Hebrews 10:12-14