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To: Dr. Eckleburg; annalex; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; Quix; blue-duncan; 1000 silverlings; P-Marlowe; ...
Protestants tend to accept the more specific dictionary definition of blasphemy as follows in my Websters...

"Profane or contemptuous speech, writing or action concerning God, or anything held as divine."

I had never thought it could be anything else.

The fundamental problem may well be that no matter how clear Scripture is if the RCC says it means something else than that's what it means. If I understand correctly what the RC posters have stated in the past, you may lose your salvation if you are in disagreement with the RCC.

11,771 posted on 03/23/2007 11:08:53 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: wmfights
If I understand correctly what the RC posters have stated in the past, you may lose your salvation if you are in disagreement with the RCC.

Yes, this accounts for much of the anxiety found within that church. Apparently God does not choose His children, the church does, according to their philosophy.

And that church might decide to give the child back to the orphanage if it doesn't obey all the rules.

11,788 posted on 03/23/2007 11:47:13 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; annalex; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; Quix; blue-duncan; 1000 silverlings; ...
If I understand correctly what the RC posters have stated in the past, you may lose your salvation if you are in disagreement with the RCC.

I would go much further than that! :) But I would add that they also apply what I'm going to say to their own people.

From what I've learned here, my understanding is that the RC view is that anyone with "sufficient" disagreement with the Church has the PRESUMPTION of damnation, UNLESS, God grants a special dispensation, which is fully within His rights to grant. For example, if anyone dies under guilt of mortal sin (i.e. without absolution) then he is presumed damned, without special dispensation. Or, if someone dies without having taken the Eucharist (a certain number of times?) under Catholic beliefs then he is presumed damned, without special dispensation. Or, if someone dies without having been acceptably baptized by Catholic standards, then he is presumed damned, without etc.

Obviously, for us Protestants, things must actually look extremely bleak in their eyes. :) It seems that all we have is the doctrine of Invincible Ignorance to rely upon, and from what I understand, it's not a good bet. As I think about it specifically now, I know it's a fact that some of whatever negative "feelings" I have toward the RCC is based on the fact that I know that most of them believe I am doomed to hell, barring an unusual miracle. Knowing for certain my love for Christ and His gift of my faith, I have a natural reaction. :)

12,191 posted on 04/02/2007 7:47:50 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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