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To: wmfights
The fact remains the only thing we have that we can be absolutely certain is truth are the Scriptures. They were written by the Apostles or those that knew the Apostles. They were not fabricated several generations to hundreds of years after the fact, such as the Protoevangelium of James was to support what has become flawed doctrine.

To play the "devil's advocate", I would like you to be aware that the idea that the Apostles writings are "Scriptures" is self-serving. Absolute truth? You are exaggerating. You base your claims on the trustworthiness of men 2000 years ago. That is subject to a proclamation of FAITH! Has God made an unequivocal statement to the entire world that the Christian Bible is Sacred Scriptures and absolute truth? Again, that is a matter of faith.

As to similar writings written during the Apostolic Age, there are a number of contradictory writings - John's epistle mentions the Gnostic teachings. So does Colossians and Revelation. How do you KNOW that some of these writings were not inspired by God? How do you KNOW that what we have is EVERYTHING God inspired?

With this information, we must trust the writers of what we now call Scripture got it right. Thus, in the end, we rely on the witness of the Church. Any other explanation is wishful thinking.

Regards

11,697 posted on 03/22/2007 12:51:55 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: jo kus; All

NO!

I rely on the witness of Holy Spirit with my spirit.

God's training course insures that with those WHO TRULY SEEK HIM FIRST AND FOREMOST AND ALWAYS

. . . such inner witness will be perceived increasingly accurately.

Which . . . is clearly God's goal.

NOT

that an edifice, organization and/or leaders be placed between Christ's Bride and Christ on honeymoon night.

This is not rocket science, folks.

Christ was persistently simple and clear when the pharisees assaulted Him

WITH . . . drum roll . . .

all kinds of . . .

!!!!TRADITION!!!!

and customs and laws and logic etc. etc. etc. etc. and etc.


11,710 posted on 03/22/2007 2:50:32 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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