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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg
What I said is that your church had high officals in it that believed as do the Protestants in many areas Yes, and my Church also had patriarchs who subscribed to Arain heresy, to Montanism, to Monophysitism, etc. There were always heretics in the Church. Lucas Cyril was no exception. Heresies of the Patriarch of Constantinople stud the entire 2,000 year-old Church history! Why the 20th century bore Meletius Metaxakis (1920-1923)!

And did any of those heretics get their views put forth in a major Catechism?

Thus, when you attempt to brush those views aside being 'Protestant heresies' they were in fact embraced by some of your own theologians and Greek Church Fathers Luckily the Church will always prevail over satanic attenots to destroy it.

Yes, the real church will, that is the church built on the Rock of the Lord Jesus Christ (Mat.16,1Pe.2), not phony man-made ones.(Mk.7:7)

The Longer Catechism was a major one and it was accepted as legimate by the Orthodox church. Russian Orthodox Church (the entire Orthodox Church is a ocmmunity of 14 or so independent Churches), under imperial decree, and short-lived, thank God.

Nevertheless, the Catechism was a major one, being used in a major branch of the Orthodox faith.

As for Satan and his angels, you are correct, that is one needs to separate from both the Orthodox Churches and RCC since both reject the only way to salvation, faith alone in Christ alone I would say that most Catholics and Orthodox are firmy convinced that Reformation was not God-inspired.

Yes, you are correct, but Satan and his angels know better!

11,489 posted on 03/20/2007 4:33:43 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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To: fortheDeclaration
And did any of those heretics get their views put forth in a major Catechism?

Not even Lutherans follow everything Luther proposed. In fact, they reject some of his teachings outright. What does that prove? You keep harping on this because that's all you have. The major catechism as you call it was a mistake as far as Philaret's stupid claim that only scriptures that exist in Hebrew are valid. That was the position of the Orthodx Church as a whole, and numbers are not important. Concensus is. The Church is not a democracy, but how would you know? You are outside the Church.

Yes, the real church will, that is the church built on the Rock of the Lord Jesus Christ (Mat.16,1Pe.2), not phony man-made ones.(Mk.7:7)

Yes, the Church God gave to his Apostles in 33 AD and not some man-made church by a hysterical rebellious priest in the 16th century.

Nevertheless, the Catechism was a major one, being used in a major branch of the Orthodox faith.

If you knew anything even elementary about Orthodoxy you will find that 'catechism' was and still is an alien concept to the Orthodox. No one uses them! Read up on Orthodox so-called catechisms (they are a very recent phenomenon) and you'll find that they are not binding. What is binding are conciliar decisions, 7 ecumenical councils and all pan-Orthodox councils held since 1054.

Yes, you are correct, but Satan and his angels know better!

I agree. They, too, believe and tremble.

11,508 posted on 03/20/2007 7:41:42 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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