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To: jo kus
Which was my point, in part. We (or most of us anyway) all agree that nature and mankind is tainted from the fall of Adam. This is not our created state, and is not what we will be. The difference is in how we define that taint, and what it means in regards to baptism, the Incarnation, and the old justification/sanctification.
1,147 posted on 12/12/2006 6:33:53 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
Which was my point, in part. We (or most of us anyway) all agree that nature and mankind is tainted from the fall of Adam. This is not our created state, and is not what we will be. The difference is in how we define that taint, and what it means in regards to baptism, the Incarnation, and the old justification/sanctification.

Yes, and my point is that our current state does not define what a "man" is. Jesus Christ does.

Regards

1,150 posted on 12/12/2006 6:46:33 AM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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