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To: Kolokotronis; annalex; Mad Dawg; Quix; HarleyD; kawaii; Dr. Eckleburg; kosta50
FK, this is called "typology". The OT is filled with it. the mysterious priest Melchizedek is a type of Christ. A prime example of typology is what we call the "Hospitality of Abraham" from the story in Genesis 18 where Abraham and Sarah provide hospitality to three angels. This is a type of the Holy Trinity.

Thank you for the icon. I assume the one on the left is the Father? Is there any significance that Christ and the Spirit have their heads tilted more downward than the Father?

I think I've heard of typology, but I still looked it up. :) I suppose I don't have a problem with general foreshadowing, but I would probably draw a line with basing doctrine solely or mostly on IT. Seems to me that would be working backwards. I could employ typology with the virgin in Isaiah 7:14, but I wouldn't assign any extra-special significance to her because of the comparison to Mary.

I would imagine that someone could take "anything" and make a big deal out of it, claiming a new doctrine or truth. One example I saw was that when Moses raised his hands while fighting the Amalekites, the Israelites were winning. This was compared to Jesus' hands being raised on the cross, and the victory that meant. I could say "that's interesting", but I would not go so far as to say it means Jesus was the new Moses instead of being the new Adam. This is what I see happening with the promotion of Mary as the new Eve and co-redemptrix. Creative typology could be used to connect anyone to anyone.

11,386 posted on 03/16/2007 9:12:51 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
I suppose I don't have a problem with general foreshadowing, but I would probably draw a line with basing doctrine solely or mostly on IT. Innerleckshually, I'm with you. But this is what tightens the old choke chain around my throat: Look at what Jesus did with the Scriptures. If He tried that kind of hermeneutics where I went to seminary they'd laugh at Him and flunk Him. (Of course, that obviously says more about the seminary that about Him, but still...)
11,387 posted on 03/17/2007 2:10:39 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Tactical shotty, Marlin 1894c, S&W 686P, Sig 226 & 239, Beretta 92fs & 8357, Glock 22, & attitude!)
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To: Forest Keeper

"I assume the one on the left is the Father? Is there any significance that Christ and the Spirit have their heads tilted more downward than the Father?"

Here's a Russian interpretation of the Icon:

"All scholars agree that the three hypostases of the Trinity are represented in Rublev's icon. But there are greatly differing views as to which angel represents which hypostasis. Many see Christ in the middle angel and God the Father in the left. Others see God the Father in the middle angel, and Christ in the left one. The middle angel occupies a special place in the icon: it is set apart not only by its central position, but also by a "regal" turn of its head towards the left angel, and by pointing with its hand towards the cup on the table. Both the turn of the head and the gesture are important clues to the hidden meaning of the icon. Equal among equals, the middle angel has such expressive power that one hesitates not to see in it a symbolic representation of God the Father. On the other hand one cannot fail to notice that the left angel is also essential: two other angels lower their heads towards it and seem to address it. Therefore, if we assume that the left angel is God the Father, the middle angel, dressed in the clothes customarily used in compositions depicting the second person of the Trinity (a blue himation and a crimson tunic), should represent Christ. This amazing and perhaps purposeful encoding of these two persons of the Trinity by Rublev does not give us a clear clue for a single interpretation. Whatever the case, the icon shows a dialogue between two angels: The Father turns to His Son and explains the necessity of His sacrifice, and the Son answers by agreeing with His Father's wish.

Neither of these interpretations impacts the interpretation of the Trinity as triune God and as a representation of the sacrament of the Eucharist. The cup on the table is a eucharistic symbol. In the cup we see the head of the calf which Abraham used for the feast. The church interprets this calf as a prototype of the New Testament Lamb, and thus the cup acquires its Eucharistic meaning. The left and the middle angels bless the cup: The Father blesses His Son on his Deed, on His death on the cross for the sake of man's salvation, and the Son, blessing the cup, expresses his readiness to sacrifice Himself. The third angel does not bless the cup and does not participate in the conversation, but is present as a Comforter, the undying, a symbol of eternal youth and the upcoming Resurrection."

About all I can say about typology is that The Church has pointed out these things since the very beginning.


11,388 posted on 03/17/2007 2:46:30 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; annalex; Mad Dawg; Quix; HarleyD; kawaii; Dr. Eckleburg; kosta50
basing doctrine solely or mostly on [typology]

Of course; and indeed, if we did not have Matthew 1-1, Luke 1-2, John 2, John 19, we probably would have a difficulty developing marilogy solely on Genesis 3.

11,438 posted on 03/19/2007 10:16:11 AM PDT by annalex
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