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To: annalex
Didn't he say that they are his "brothers and his mother...?"

In any case, his mother and his brothers were outside seeking to speak to him. He was told this. He then spoke spiritually when he said, indicating the crowd, that "these" are my brothers and mother.

The contrast is between Mary and his brothers and those in the crowd who are his spiritual brothers and mother.

Mt 13:55 - Is this not the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas?

Mt 12:46 - While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him.

Mt 12:49 - And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, "Here are My mother and My brothers!

In the following passage, the child is taken to heaven, but the woman remains on earth. This denies the Assumption, doesn't it? In fact, it is not about Mary at all.

1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads. 4 His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born. 5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

1,127 posted on 12/11/2006 8:29:39 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
The contrast is between Mary and his brothers and those in the crowd who are his spiritual brothers and mother.

What contrast? The repudiation of His family is a counterscriptural Protestant tale. the child is taken to heaven, but the woman remains on earth. This denies the Assumption, doesn't it?

No it does not deny the Assumption, which indeed followed the Ascension by many years.

In fact, it is not about Mary at all

2 And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered. 3 And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his head seven diadems: 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son. 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with an iron rod: and her son was taken up to God, and to his throne. 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God, that there they should feed her a thousand two hundred sixty days. 7 And there was a great battle in heaven, Michael and his angels fought with the dragon, and the dragon fought and his angels: 8 And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And that great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, who seduceth the whole world; and he was cast unto the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying: Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: because the accuser of our brethren is cast forth, who accused them before our God day and night.

(Apoc. 12)

Who, do you think is the woman who gives birth to Christ?
1,252 posted on 12/13/2006 1:38:02 AM PST by annalex
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