Good. We agree on the basics!
I do not think of God as doling out "evil souls"
That's good too.
The soul, as manufactured, does not include evil, for that would make God the author of evil.
Except for 'manufactured' that is good too.
The Bible teaches that aside from Eve, all subsequent men are stained by the sin of Adam
I knew this had to end. Where is the stain? On the body? No, of course not. On the soul? But I thought that God 'manufactures' the souls. If they are good after God makes them, when do they get 'stained?' [I have an idea, but I want to see what you say].
God created the goats. There is no other creator. He just did not predestine them to be of the elect
First he makes them, even 'manufactures' thee souls, then He throws them on a trash pile to burn in hell forever?
Some seem to believe in a monster who happnes to like them. Yet the Bible tells us God is not partial.
We are God's creation. He is free to do with us as He pleases. We have no rights
YOU said that would make Him a terrible Father, FK. Sounds like you judged as much as I did. I guess that makes both of us unfit to be even clay?
Yes, God settled everything from the beginning
Okay, then no intervention is necessary because His plan is not bound to go wrong! All those events you mention are simple sequences in His plan, not interventions. An intervention means interference.
What's wrong with "manufactured"? I just meant that God created everything. Is the human soul uncreated?
Where is the stain? On the body? No, of course not. On the soul? But I thought that God 'manufactures' the souls. If they are good after God makes them, when do they get 'stained?' [I have an idea, but I want to see what you say].
Well, I've never studied it, but my opinion would be that the stain of sin happens at conception. :
Rom 5:12 : 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: KJV
Sin is only "in the world", so conception would appear to be the earliest point of entry. Now, I don't claim to know the mechanics of how or whether God sits there with a "bag-o-souls", in perfectly good condition, and passes them out at conception only to be immediately corrupted by original sin, but it appears that "something" like that happens. That fits the Biblical model.
First he makes them, even 'manufactures' their souls, then He throws them on a trash pile to burn in hell forever?
He doesn't do that, they do it to themselves. God just doesn't prevent them from doing it. For the elect, He does prevent them.
Some seem to believe in a monster who happens to like them. Yet the Bible tells us God is not partial.
I wouldn't know who those "some" are. Never met any. But you are right that God is not partial. Since salvation is not based on anything in the person, including any merit, then He cannot be partial in choosing His elect.
FK: "We are God's creation. He is free to do with us as He pleases. We have no rights."
YOU said that would make Him a terrible Father, FK. Sounds like you judged as much as I did. I guess that makes both of us unfit to be even clay?
Nope. I said God would be a terrible Father IF all people are His beloved children. I contend that is not the case. He does as He pleases in CHOOSING His children.
FK: "Yes, God settled everything from the beginning."
Okay, then no intervention is necessary because His plan is not bound to go wrong! All those events you mention are simple sequences in His plan, not interventions. An intervention means interference.
I don't distinguish between intervention and sequence. I think it's an intervention because beforehand the person was headed for hell, and afterward he was headed for Heaven. Within time, to me, that is an interference.