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To: Uncle Chip; jo kus; wmfights; kosta50; Forest Keeper; Blogger
And while we are at it, let's look at this list of disputed books from the same website for the New Testament. Is this list fairly accurate????

Disputed Books of the New Testament

The table below shows which of the disputed New Testament books and other writings are included in catalogs of canonical books up to the eighth century.

Y indicates that the book is plainly listed as Holy Scripture;

N indicates that the author lists it in a class of disputed books;

M indicates that the list may be construed to include the book as Holy Scripture;

X indicates that the book is expressly rejected by the author.

S indicates that the author does not mention the book at all, which implies its rejection.

KEY TO BOOKS Heb. - Epistle to the Hebrews/ Jas. - Epistle of James / Jn. - Second and Third Epistle of John/ Pet. - Second Epistle of Peter / Jude - Epistle of Jude / Rev. - Revelation of John/ Shep. - Shepherd of Hermas/ Apoc. - Apocalypse of Peter/ Barn. - Epistle of Barnabas / Clem. - Epistle of Clement /

1. Greek & Latin Date Heb. Jas. Jn. Pet. Jude Rev. Shep. Apoc. Barn. Clem. Muratorian Fragment 170 S S M S Y Y X N S S Origen 225 Y N N N N Y S S S S Eusebius of Caesarea 324 Y N N N N N X X X S Cyril of Jerusalem 348 Y Y Y Y Y S S S S S Cheltenham list 360 S S Y Y S Y S S S S Council of Laodicea 363 Y Y Y Y Y S S S S S Athanasius 367 Y Y Y Y Y Y X S S S Gregory of Nazianzus 380 Y Y Y Y Y S S S S S Amphilocius of Iconium 380 Y N N N N N S S S S Rufinus 380 Y Y Y Y Y Y X S S S Epiphanius 385 Y Y Y Y Y Y S S S S Jerome 390 Y Y Y Y Y Y S S S S Augustine 397 Y Y Y Y Y Y S S S S 3rd Council of Carthage 397 Y Y Y Y Y Y S S S S Codex Claromontanus 400 M Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y S Letter of Innocent I 405 Y Y Y Y Y Y S X S S Decree of Gelasius 550 Y Y Y Y Y Y X S S S Isadore of Seville 625 Y Y Y Y Y Y S S S S John of Damascus 730 Y Y Y Y Y Y S S S S

2. Syrian Date Heb. Jas. Jn. Pet. Jude Rev. Shep. Apoc. Barn. Clem. Apostolic Canons 380 Y Y Y Y Y S S S S Y Peshitta Version 400 Y Y S S S S S S S S Report of Junilius 550 Y N N N N N S S S S

10,889 posted on 02/20/2007 5:38:48 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
And while we are at it, let's look at this list of disputed books from the same website for the New Testament. Is this list fairly accurate????

It would take me some research on that. But regarding Origen, there is some inaccuracies. This makes the whole site suspect.

Origen makes numerous references to the Shepherd of Hermas, and on one occasion, in his later years, he describes it as 'a work which seems to me very useful, and, as I believe, divinely inspired' . (Comm. in Rom. 10.31, written about 244-6). See p. 140 of [Metzger].

According to [Grant]:

It would appear that while he [Origen] was at Alexandria he regarded the Didache, Hermas and Barnabas as canonical, but that after moving to Caesarea he became aware that they were not accepted there. (p. 171)

Origen quotes from the Epistle of Barnabas 3 times; in fact on one occasion he calls it 'Barnabas'general epistle'. (Contra Celsum 1.63).

The proceeding quotes were from Metzger's "The Canon of the New Testament: Its Origin, Development, and Significance". It is a highly recommended book on the subject of the NT Canon.

For a better website on the NT canon, I suggest

http://www.ntcanon.org/

Regards

10,897 posted on 02/20/2007 7:09:21 AM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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