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To: Blogger
In the end, your argument is hypocritical because you utilize the Fathers that you THINK disagree with the OT Deuts' place in Scripture - while simultaneously ignoring the same sources that ALSO disagree that the NT Deuts belong in the Scriptures.

It is clear that you cannot explain why you take such a two-sided stance. IF you accept the NT Deuts, explain why you do not except the OT Deuts. I have asked you this before - so what's the answer? Or are you again going to call Catholics anti-semetic and go off on a tangeant about "such and such Father didn't accept the OT Deuteros..."

Your argument is special pleading based on the idea that you have some special and unproven access to what the Scriptures are WITHOUT the Church.

I trust the Holy Spirit to lead me.

What evidence do you have that He leads you to determine the Scripture canon? That is a self-serving statement if I ever heard one. It didn't work for Jean Calvin, so why would it work for you?

Regards

10,809 posted on 02/18/2007 2:46:52 PM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: jo kus
Concerning "hypocrites." The 1st century Didache (c. 70 AD) says:

Our Lord Jesus Christ calls the Pharisees hypocrites (and worse!) on more than one occasion.

The trouble is that many a Protestant apparently refuses to acknowledge that besides the Pharisees there were other Jews who neither used the Pharisaical 'Jewish canon' nor recognized the monopoly of Pharisaical 'Jewish canon' as normative.

The only surviving sect of Judaism are the Pharisees and naturally they declared the 'norm' in Jamnia (end of 1st century AD).

That's fine,as long as we recognize that there were many other Jews whose canon did not agree with that of the hypocrites, a term used by the Jews to describe the Pharisees. Such other Jews included the Sadducees, the Essenes and the hellenized Jews in Asia Minor, Greece and Italy.

10,817 posted on 02/18/2007 8:53:50 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: jo kus
Concerning the deuterocanonicals (Protestants accept NT deuts but reject the OT deuts), this is what the first Church hisotrian Eusebius says (4th century AD):

+Athanasius, for example, as well as +John of Damascus, considered Didache to be canonical. But the Church didn't! So, while +Jerome was allowed to voice his opinion, he coud do so without condemnation as long as it was not stated as fact but as a theological opinion (theologoumena). As you mention, however (and this is crucial) he submitted to the wisdom and the Apostolic authoirty of the Church

10,818 posted on 02/18/2007 9:12:08 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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