Seniority is not part of the formula, FK. It's something a lawyer would throw in to obfuscate the issue faced with a lack of any real argument. :)
I agree with you that none of our churches passes every test of "the rules" perfectly. That's why I don't think it's right to make a federal case out of Reformed churches not mandating that women be covered artificially (i.e. with a veil), the way Kawaii has been
By all means, I couldn't agree more! But it's important to understand where the 'tide comes from' so to say. certainly, the non-compliance in Apostolic churches did not come from within those churches, but from western influence, based on Protestant individualism, pride, hatred for authority, etc. all the things we cherrish in secular life and mistakenly bring into our spiritual life.
It is even more hypocritical that it should come from the Protestant side since the Protestants 'live by the Bible.'
Artificial or not, +Paul is very clear when it comes to 'being covered.' There is nothing ambiguous about his commandments, FK. Let's face it, women find it 'offensive' to be excluded. They feel that they are somehow 'demeaned' when they are covered. Those ideas don't come from the Bible. They don't come from the Church, either.
Seniority is not part of the formula, FK. It's something a lawyer would throw in to obfuscate the issue faced with a lack of any real argument. :)
LOL! I only threw in "senior" to make sure I was relaying information I was confident about. In my church we have a few paid ministerial positions, e.g. Minister of Music, Minister of Education, and Minister to Students. To date, none of these positions has ever been held by a woman. A few years ago, I was in charge of the committee to update the Bylaws to reflect the current views of church members and the subject came up as to whether women would even be eligible for these positions. We wound up voting "no", but there was some debate about it. That's my church, and I simply don't know about other SBC churches.
But it's important to understand where the 'tide comes from' so to say. Certainly, the non-compliance in Apostolic churches did not come from within those churches, but from western influence, based on Protestant individualism, pride, hatred for authority, etc. all the things we cherish in secular life and mistakenly bring into our spiritual life.
What? You're blaming us for people in your churches not following the "rules"? You have spent a lot of time telling me how your beliefs and practices are relatively unchanged since the beginning, and yet "modern" Protestants are somehow this big new corrupting influence on you? You all survived the iron fist of communism, along with other great oppression, and yet harmless little Protestants cause you to stumble now? That's not reasonable.
It is even more hypocritical that it should come from the Protestant side since the Protestants 'live by the Bible.'
And you live by Tradition, and fail that from time to time. We never claimed to be perfect, we do claim to define our authority and standards. We don't claim to be "better" than anyone else.