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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; wmfights; Kolokotronis; klossg; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; ...
What are your opinions on this James Akin FAITH ALONE thread?

I find that it is the language and meaning of the words in our discussion that puts us on opposite sides of a Sunni/Shiite like social-faith relationship. How a Catholic understands the word FAITH and how a protestant understands the words FAITH, HOPE and CHARITY is the crux of the discussion. I can believe in Faith Alone if it is defined as put forward by the article of that thread?

Anyone for agreement on this? How about mild, violent disagreement? I could live with agreeing on the differences in definitions of the words between us.
10,683 posted on 02/16/2007 6:06:56 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: klossg

James Akin is anti-Catholic.
Who cares what he has to say!
http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1993/9311fea1sb1.asp


10,685 posted on 02/16/2007 6:17:39 AM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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Thanks for the link, klossg. I will read it when I get a chance. I agree with you that our perspectives are not the same. Once we realize that we are not of the one and the same fold we can stop pretending and simply resign oursleves that we are two different religious communities, both claiming Chirst, the way Gnostics or LDS consider themselves "Christian."

I respect everyone's beliefs. I don't necessarily agree with them.

10,688 posted on 02/16/2007 7:41:11 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: klossg
Anyone for agreement on this?

ya got one here. I think proper definition and clarity helps a great deal. However..

Even with it, I think we try too hard sometimes to find disagreement, it's almost a reflex. Going back no doubt to protest and protested against. Sometimes, it seems to me, we work hard on splitting apart what can't be split, like faith and works. We build a legalistic framework and then fight over it, two levels removed from reality, three from the Divine.

May we never becom like sunni/shiite, and may we never go back to killing each other. Looked at in light of history, these vituperative threads are a great improvement. :)

thanks for your post.

10,721 posted on 02/16/2007 12:50:46 PM PST by D-fendr
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