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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan
Reformers believe that only those predestined to receive mercy will receive mercy, so it is no gift but an 'executive' (no pun intended!) decision before all ages before those receiving mercy were even created (and 'enslaved').

As I understand your representations of what the EO believe is that a person will only be considered righteous after they have died and the sum of their good deeds are weighted. I believe this is also how Judaism views salvation. It is a result of good works.

It certainly would explain your inability to understand the unmerited free gift of Grace.

10,502 posted on 02/15/2007 9:37:07 AM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: wmfights; Blogger; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; Quix

It is not possible for anyone who believes that God is omniscient to escape the conclusion that every destiny is known and has been set since the creation of the world.

The only option is to remove omniscience from our understanding of God.


10,505 posted on 02/15/2007 10:05:15 AM PST by xzins
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To: wmfights
As I understand your representations of what the EO believe is that a person will only be considered righteous after they have died and the sum of their good deeds are weighted

Isn't this the old Egyptian religion? they weigh out your heart and you have a bribe ready in case the big dog wants to gulp it down.

10,523 posted on 02/15/2007 10:31:14 AM PST by 1000 silverlings
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To: wmfights; Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan
As I understand your representations of what the EO believe is that a person will only be considered righteous after they have died and the sum of their good deeds are weighted. I believe this is also how Judaism views salvation. It is a result of good works. It certainly would explain your inability to understand the unmerited free gift of Grace

That is a valid observation, but I disagree. the Bible is clear that we will be judged on our deeds. Our deeds must have a righteous intent. Judaism requires obedience to the Law. As +Symeon the Theologian says in his "On Faith" (Philokalia, Vol 4) "I neither fasted, nor kept vigils,...but humbled myself and...God saved me."

10,596 posted on 02/15/2007 1:32:27 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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