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To: HarleyD; 1000 silverlings; kawaii; blue-duncan
It's rather interesting that the Orthodox base everything they believe upon what a group of people agree to. I can't say there is any other group of Christians that would make that claim

I would say the Catholics do. Other than that, you are right: the Protestants would rather hold on to their personal truths, performing those 'reliable' self-tests.

10,413 posted on 02/14/2007 7:07:41 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

I dunno, I think we have the whole of the Westminster Confession posted in pieces on this thread.

Must have some weight for some groups of Christians.


10,435 posted on 02/14/2007 8:57:47 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; Blogger
Protestants would rather hold on to their personal truths, performing those 'reliable' self-tests.

Is it just me, Harley or is it brazenly true . . . when Protesties say something as a brazen fact about the RC's or Orthodox that the RC's or Orthodox believe to be wholesale untrue, they throw a hissy fit.

Yet, seemingly, love dishing the other side of the coin out like what? . . . like . . . cheap indulgences???

Must be some new model of consistent, congruent Righteousness I've not been able to wrap my mind around, yet. Not that I think I want to try very hard, you understand.

I think the most brazen part of such a hypocritical notion is that the RC's &/or Orthodox do not do the very thing they accuse us of in the above line.

The delusion, seems to be, to me, that the RC's and Orthodox are SAFE or safER because of this overriding magesterical and supposedly super holy !!!!TRADITION!!!!

Of course, we have seen as history has shown, that the magesterical and the supposedly super holy !!!!TRADITION!!!! have not been at all significantly more holy than individual Protesties following the Word and Holy Spirit as best they could. IN FACT, they've often been MUCH MORE HORRIBLY WORSE.

But laying that screaming hypocrisy aside for a moment . . . there's another just as insideous one running rampant through the line above. The presumption seems to be that the magesterical and !!!!TRADITION!!!! take a Vulcan Mind control grip on each and every RC and Orthodox believer and prevent ANY individual thought or action or justment or assessment from deviating a microgrm's worth from . . . from what . . . from the CURRENT CONSENSUS of the magesterical and !!!!TRADITION!!!!???

The assumption seems to be that ALL RC and Orthodox believers are 1,000% robots to the magesterical and !!!!TRADITION!!!! Not a single RC nor Orthodox believer EVER to the least microgram, sub-atomic degree EVER ponders whether a given magesterical or !!!!TRADITION!!!! related edict fits them and their current situation, or not.

It MUST BE ALL AUTOMATIC--perhaps from an ET computer chip implant inserted through some vastly advanced science a few weeks after fertilization, in the woomb . . . yes, an ET computer chip/communication chip--tied through sub-space to some galactic MAGESTERICAL and some galactic !!!!TRADITION!!!! CENTRAL where such judgments and assessments are made far above individual brain considerations.

I mean, clearly the above line implies rather brazenly and absurdly that Protesties have this automatically and chronically wholesale sinful habit of working out their own Salvation with fear and trembling as Scriptures instruct.

BUT . . . . BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT NOT the RC's and Orthodox! OH, no! Far more holy are they! They surrender all individual thought, fantasy, action to the GALACTIC MAGESTERICAL AND !!!!TRADITION!!!! CENTRAL. ALLLLLLLL their individual acts and thoughts and urges are cleared ahead of time by the GALACTIC MAGESTERICAL AND !!!!TRADITION!!!! Can't have anyone behaving like an individually thinking, deciding, acting sinful Protesty! Horrors!

That doesn't explain WHICH PART of the GALACTIC MAGESTERICAL AND !!!!TRADITION!!!! CENTRAL is construed to be the consensually perfectly holy disseminating broadcast nucleus of TRULY ABSOLUTE TRULY TRUEST TRUE TRUTH for that moment.

I mean . . . is there some individual head of the GALACTIC MAGESTERICAL AND !!!!TRADITION!!!! CENTRAL that is appointed to decide for say an 8 hour shift just exactly what absolute truth will be? Or do they rotate amongst themselves? Do the earthly popes, magestericals and !!!!TRADITION!!!! SUB-CENTRALS have input or are they merely relay stations from that absoluteness of the GALACTIC MAGESTERICAL AND !!!!TRADITION!!!! CENTRAL??? Inquiring minds want to know. Errrr, Inquiring Protesty minds want to know. Not, of course robotized, neutralized, homoginized RC and Orthodox minds. They certainly would not stoop so low as to have an individual unique thought or question about anything.

Kind of sad that.

It's interesting, Harley, how often brazen proud pronouncements are offered as though they made sense or had some foundation. I never realized before how much such theology REALLY DOES HANG ON INVISIBLE SKYHOOKS MADE OF AIRGEL, if that.

Or, am I all wet?

10,484 posted on 02/15/2007 7:59:39 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE)
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