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To: kosta50; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; Blogger
FK, if everything is developing along God's plan, if God's will cannot be resisted, there is no reason for God's anger, and you know that.

I have to disagree. It sounds to me like you are bringing together anger and surprise. That happens with us all the time, but as I said in the prior post, of course that never happens with God. Are you saying that God never had anger, or that He was surprised and did have anger?

Think of the most dramatic example. What do you think God's reaction was to watching Jesus die on the cross? Was it sadness or grief or anger, as those concepts are described to us in the Bible? Was it surprise? Was it indifference? I'm not equating God's "emotions" to our human emotions, but the Bible says what it says, and there has to be a reason for so many scriptures to use those terms in describing God. His plan is the ultimate good. If that plan can include such things as the death of His Son, then it shouldn't be surprising that other parts of His plan also caused anger.

10,371 posted on 02/14/2007 3:13:54 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper; HarleyD; Blogger; blue-duncan; kosta50; 1000 silverlings
Amen. God's anger is righteous. We are chastened by it and learn from it.

"O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.

Sing unto the LORD, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.

For His anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning." -- Psalm 30:3-5


10,373 posted on 02/14/2007 3:23:45 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Forest Keeper
I'm not equating God's "emotions" to our human emotions, but the Bible says what it says, and there has to be a reason for so many scriptures to use those terms in describing God

Let's say I write a novel. In that novel I have a number of characters who do things as I determine they will do, what color hair or eyes they will have, what gender, where will they be from, how they behave, live, when they die, etc.

I write and they do as I wrote. There is no chance that any character in my novel will 'rebel' and do something that's not in the script, that I didn't put there.

My book will begin, develop and end as I envision it exactly as I wrote it. Nothing will change the outcome once the book is published.

Now, in my book I have a character who is envious of his neighbor. And, one day, in a fit of jealous rage, my character kills his neighbor. What should be my reaction to this act? How should I "feel" as the creator of the character and eveyrhting he does, including the murder, if it is entirely the product of my authorship?

Can I justifiably be 'angry' and 'disappointed' with him? Can I 'repent' for having created him in my book without blaming myself?

10,422 posted on 02/14/2007 8:06:06 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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