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To: D-fendr; Forest Keeper
I think if you review the discussion you'll see I've tried to stay focused on the original question to Forest Keeper: "Can only saved Christians can choose to do good?"

I would suggest going back and reading through the posts. We have gone from knowledge to good works to good decisions. These are all different things and require different responses. When you stated "choose to do good" this implies that can Christians choose to do good [works].

People do not have good "knowledge" which I stated sounded very Gnostic and was condemned by the early Church as heresy. Nor can people make alway make good decisions; Adam found that out even being perfect. As far as works, I posted what the Confessions state.

10,062 posted on 02/11/2007 4:39:11 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; D-fendr; Forest Keeper
People do not have good "knowledge" which I stated sounded very Gnostic and was condemned by the early Church as heresy

+Paul claims his authority precisely on that kind of knowledge. He also uses very Gnostic concepts when he claims that God reveals Christ in Him and not to him.

10,065 posted on 02/11/2007 5:09:08 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: HarleyD
People do not have good "knowledge" which I stated sounded very Gnostic..

As I said I was referring to the formation of conscience, "law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness".. Conscience is not gnosticism nor heresy.

Nor can people make alway make good decisions..

The question was ever "choose to do good."

I would suggest going back and reading through the posts.

That's ok. The discussion was with Forest Keeper, when he catches up, we'll continue if he wishes.

Thanks for your reply.

10,073 posted on 02/11/2007 10:21:45 AM PST by D-fendr
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