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'The Nativity Story' Movie Problematic for Catholics, "Unsuitable" for Young Children
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 12/4/2006 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480

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To: hosepipe; Alamo-Girl
Identify what you mean by apostle.. beyond just a "sent one"..

I trust that only the Apostles (and we know their names) were inspired, and wrote or spoke God's truth. Everyone else since then had a religious opinion.

14,341 posted on 05/09/2007 10:42:36 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
[.. I trust that only the Apostles (and we know their names) were inspired, and wrote or spoke God's truth. Everyone else since then had a religious opinion. ..]

So then.... I take it you personally have never had a "Vision"?..
-OR- been schooled privately in secret by the Holy Spirit?..

Do you believe its possible that others(now living) HAVE?..

14,342 posted on 05/09/2007 10:47:45 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: blue-duncan; Blogger; topcat54; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; Quix
What is your authority for either of the Postmil positions being over 1900 years old?

Am I wrong? Please correct me if I am and it is entirely possible. In a quick search I've dated this back to the 1599 Geneva Bible (Notes on Revelation) I'm sure I read of one of the church fathers who subscribed to this. But, who knows? As I told my wife, "I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken."

I'm heading off for a meeting but I'm no expert on this subject. I can only FLATLY state that God does not favor those who reject His Son.

14,343 posted on 05/09/2007 10:58:12 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: hosepipe
So then.... I take it you personally have never had a "Vision"?..-OR- been schooled privately in secret by the Holy Spirit?..Do you believe its possible that others(now living) HAVE?..

There are none who are inspired. I believe God intercedes for us and we reach Him in our prayers if they are pure in intention and desire. God gently ande ver so lovingly puts us back on the right track if we drop our arroagnce and pride and ask for His help, but that's not the same as God speaking through your mouth or through your pen.

14,344 posted on 05/09/2007 11:04:51 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: HarleyD

Acts Chapter 14. Read what Paul had to say about the pagans of the time.


14,345 posted on 05/09/2007 11:06:43 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Dr. Eckleburg; hosepipe; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; wmfights; 1000 silverlings
I strongly recommend avoiding the presumption that everyone you are speaking to here is indeed, mortal

And I would recommend avoiding the presumption that anyone who pretends to be immortal here is necessarily sane.

Will the immortal ones please identify yourselves?

14,346 posted on 05/09/2007 11:17:50 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: HarleyD; blue-duncan; wmfights

If he doesn’t, then we are all damned. NONE OF US sought Him. NO NOT ONE. He had to seek us first.


14,347 posted on 05/09/2007 11:18:52 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: kosta50
Will the immortal ones please identify yourselves?

(Cheesy movie pun) We have Highlanders here?

14,348 posted on 05/09/2007 11:25:38 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: kosta50

LOLOL!


14,349 posted on 05/09/2007 11:27:26 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: kosta50
[.. Will the immortal ones please identify yourselves? ..]

Ooo.Ooo.Oooo...Ooo..Ooo (persona; Horshack "Welcome back Cotter[TV})

14,350 posted on 05/09/2007 11:51:44 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; Dr. Eckleburg

Define “immortal”, for our souls are and we are never going to die


14,351 posted on 05/09/2007 12:13:03 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("The Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests." Andrew Jackson, President of U.S.)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Dr. Eckleburg; kosta50
Indeed, as the Scriptures say, we are dead and our lives are hid with Christ in God. (Col 3:3)
14,352 posted on 05/09/2007 12:15:55 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alex Murphy; annalex
who drift into heresy overtime. Overtime?

I'd say that a lot of heresy was done during overtime. They should have stopped at the end of a normal workday!

14,353 posted on 05/09/2007 12:25:12 PM PDT by Gamecock (FR Member Gamecock: Declared Anathema By The Council Of Trent)
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To: redgolum
Acts Chapter 14. Read what Paul had to say about the pagans of the time.

Seems to me God added to the church but a lot of Greek and Jews wanted to kill them. Is this your point?
14,354 posted on 05/09/2007 12:49:48 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
Wasn’t very clear. Part of the plant went down and I had run. The relevant passages were verses 16 and 17.

16In the past, he let all nations go their own way. 17Yet he has not left himself without testimony: He has shown kindness by giving you rain from heaven and crops in their seasons; he provides you with plenty of food and fills your hearts with joy.”

God shows kindness to even the unbelievers.

14,355 posted on 05/09/2007 1:33:10 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Blogger; HarleyD; blue-duncan; wmfights; Quix
If any of us had based our authority on what Hal Lindsey said, then you would have a point. Hal Lindsey, John Hagee, Jack Van Impe, did not create pre-tribulational doctrine.

No, that was invented by JN Darby via the visions of Margaret MacDonald.

14,356 posted on 05/09/2007 1:39:59 PM PDT by topcat54 ("... knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience." (James 1:3))
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To: topcat54

God bless you.


14,357 posted on 05/09/2007 1:50:26 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: topcat54; Uncle Chip; Blogger; HarleyD; wmfights; Quix

“No, that was invented by JN Darby via the visions of Margaret MacDonald.”

Do you remember your response to Uncle Chip on the MacArthur thread?

“You really don’t want to start engaging in guilt by association, now do you?”

When he posted this:

“without ever seeming to recognise that preterism is a Jesuit-Romanist invention, not a Protestant Reformed teaching.

ORIGINS Preterism was first advanced in 1604 by Jesuit Luis de Alcasar to destroy the Reformed Protestant teaching that the papacy was Mystery Babylon, the Great Whore and the historical Antichrist.”

715 posted on 05/08/2007 10:34:06 AM EDT by topcat54


14,358 posted on 05/09/2007 2:13:04 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: annalex; lightman

“With apologies to Lightman, let me explain that my pun on his screen name had to do with Kolokotronis’ inadvertent omission of him on the To line in 14,282.”

Well, as the Greeks, or somebody, say, “No fool like an old fool!” Sorry Father! :)


14,359 posted on 05/09/2007 2:55:51 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; betty boop; .30Carbine; Quix
FK: "God's will decides whether we ever declare Christ, for we are fully dependent on Him for the grace to do so."

Then we are helpless and hopeless.

Yes, by ourselves, that's exactly right.

But, in Christ, everyone is invited. God knocks on everyone's heart and doesn't bar anyone from coming to Him. The decision is ours, by His permission.

If all God does is offer, and leaves it up to us to save ourselves, then He doesn't care which of us is saved, or which become His children. He is turning His back and washing His hands of the decision. I think God cares much more than that. He LOVES His children, and because of that love, He saves them.

14,360 posted on 05/09/2007 3:15:21 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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