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'The Nativity Story' Movie Problematic for Catholics, "Unsuitable" for Young Children
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 12/4/2006 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480

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To: Mad Dawg

lol, spin.


11,801 posted on 03/23/2007 12:04:59 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (I demand the right to be Islamophobic)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; 1000 silverlings; Gamecock; Quix
There is NO Scriptural support for any of those beliefs.

True, no direct scriptural support. There is no support for the superstition of the Sola Scriptura either. But my Church is authorized to "bind and loose" on the matters of salvation. Yours?

11,802 posted on 03/23/2007 12:05:37 PM PDT by annalex
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To: Quix
I see the "spirit" is working in you again...

I think you need an "outer body experience" and take a look at your posts. I think you'd be amazed at the abusive and condescending tones you are writing in. Just arrogant purple and huge font words.

But then again, maybe you could care less - and the "spirit" is behind that, too.

It is sad when a religious forum has such garbage on it. No wonder non-Christians say we need to police our own...

11,803 posted on 03/23/2007 12:09:13 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: annalex
There is no support for the superstition of the Sola Scriptura either. But my Church is authorized to "bind and loose" on the matters of salvation.

There is far more support for Scripture as the sole rule of faith than the Romanist nonsense of binding and loosening faith.

Yours?

Actually, yes. It is Christ who binds and loosens.

11,804 posted on 03/23/2007 12:11:10 PM PDT by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Gamecock
Actually, yes. It is Christ who binds and loosens

Now you've ruined their whole day

11,805 posted on 03/23/2007 12:12:22 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (I demand the right to be Islamophobic)
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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg
That means of course that all her toe nail clippings have to be kept in golden jars in a place of honor and prominence.

Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Dr. E?

You have Freepmail, Quix :P

11,806 posted on 03/23/2007 12:13:43 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Gamecock
When it's convenient you are as literal as the fundamentalists you so often ridicule. Then you insist on a liberal reading. I wish you would make up your collective minds.

I don't foresee that happening any time soon. It's been a long history of doublespeak...

You Tell Us:
Does Rome Provide Infallible Certainty
About the Gospel?

11,807 posted on 03/23/2007 12:15:06 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock

Well, let's do like the Bereans and read Matthew 16:19. Who, Christ said, is to bind and loose?


11,808 posted on 03/23/2007 12:15:09 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex

Christ will infallibly lead all God's children home.


11,809 posted on 03/23/2007 12:17:04 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock
He said I am.....

Having a difficult time figuring out metaphorical language, I see. Which Jew left Jesus when, according to you, Jesus claimed to be a metal gate??? Which Jew left Jesus because He had lost it and called Himself a plant??? Yet there was a stampede when He said one must eat His flesh?

So when Jesus said "you must eat my flesh" why didn't everyone just say "oh, it's another metaphor"?

You know why? Eating one's flesh is a metaphor for being persecuted...

"Unless one persecutes me, he will not have eternal life". Is THAT what the "reformers" teach?

YOU guys crack me up because you only read parts of the Bible and twist them to your own preconceived ideas and beliefs.

Regards

11,810 posted on 03/23/2007 12:17:34 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

"....you believe Mary to be divine".

How many times is this untruth about Catholic beliefs going to show up on this forum?

The Catholic Church church does not teach that Mary is "divine".

Tell me why you say this when it isn't true.


11,811 posted on 03/23/2007 12:17:38 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: Gamecock
Actually, yes. It is Christ who binds and loosens.

And He delegated that authority to Peter, didn't He - and then later, the other 11 Apostles. Didn't you read Matthew's Gospel?

11,812 posted on 03/23/2007 12:20:00 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Gamecock

LOL. It'll only hurt for a moment. Then the healing can begin.


11,813 posted on 03/23/2007 12:21:11 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Christ will infallibly lead all God's children home.

Does that mean that EVERY SINGLE JEW who was ever circumcised will be saved???

Regards

11,814 posted on 03/23/2007 12:22:32 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: annalex

Have bound and loosed often

with GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT confirming with signs following.

You were saying about your edifice?


11,815 posted on 03/23/2007 12:24:00 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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To: Running On Empty; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix
you believe Mary to be divine

If as you claim, she was born without sin, and the only other person, born without sin was Christ, then they are either both divine, or, neither of them is. Which is it?

You build most of your temples to her. I have been inside them. Inside are bigger than life statues of her, with votive offerings.If an archaeologist were to find these, some time hence, he will conclude that you were a nation of goddess worshippers, as that is where all the evidence points.

Why don't Catholics just come out and admit it? After all your two last Popes make no secret of how they feel about it.

11,816 posted on 03/23/2007 12:30:26 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (I demand the right to be Islamophobic)
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To: Gamecock
You guys (RCs) crack me up. When it's convenient you are as literal as the fundamentalists you so often ridicule. Then you insist on a liberal reading.

Unlike you guys who insist on a fundamental reading until you need a liberal reading. I wish you'd make up your minds. You're just SO diffferent from us!

In a huge leap of faith, we look at Jesus and see that he is not a door, and conclude that he is speaking metaphorically. Protestants fall back in AWE at our daring to assert that there are no knobs on the Lord. When they recover they begin to insult and fire up the random Scriputre generator again. However when it is possible, not inconceivable, that what He said could be taken literally, we take it literally and, well look at that, the Protestant mock us again and generate some more Scriptures and mockery

At least they're consistent. If it's good, pious, and reasonable, they mock it -- except for when they are busy misrepresenting it. They accuse us of believing in magic, but they use verses of Scripture like incantations. Having no arguments, they resort to mind numbing repetitions like a three year old wearing down a frazzled parent.

Newsflash: we get that your religion is so bankrupt that if you couldn't mock Catholics you wouldn't have any way to occupy your lonely hours. (Actually I don't really think that. I was just caught up in the atmosphere of technicolor mockery, abuse, condescension, and belittlement. We get that you disagree with us about this and that. We are willing to entertain your arguments, if you'd make them. We are not going to think them any more powerful for being repeated, we are not going to admire you for your endurance if you cite or quote the same verse over and over again. Perseveration is not a sign of health.

THINK about what you are doing! A thread is put up about a movie, and you all are driven not just to criticize the RC point of view but to mock it offensively and to call us liars. And then you wonder why we don't find you persuasive or even very attractive.

Oh? What's that? You're doing it for our own good? This is curative? How TOO kind of you. Thank you WAY too much, I'm sure.

11,817 posted on 03/23/2007 12:30:49 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Tactical shotty, Marlin 1894c, S&W 686P, Sig 226 & 239, Beretta 92fs & 8357, Glock 22, & attitude!)
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To: jo kus
No, of course not.

"Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed." -- Romans 9:6-8


11,818 posted on 03/23/2007 12:34:18 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I'll be eager to read your argument if you ever have one. Haven't seen one yet.


11,819 posted on 03/23/2007 12:38:24 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Tactical shotty, Marlin 1894c, S&W 686P, Sig 226 & 239, Beretta 92fs & 8357, Glock 22, & attitude!)
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To: 1000 silverlings
If an archaeologist were to find these, some time hence, he will conclude that you were a nation of goddess worshippers, as that is where all the evidence points.

Again pops up the truth of the fruit by which we are known.

11,820 posted on 03/23/2007 12:40:47 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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