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To: Alex Murphy

Nope. Not even logical to baptize before one has faith or even knowledge of the Lord. How sad I would have been to think that I was baptized before I could do so out of my own obedience. How misleading this is to some.


5 posted on 11/29/2006 9:36:10 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Not even logical to baptize before one has faith or even knowledge of the Lord. How sad I would have been to think that I was baptized before I could do so out of my own obedience. How misleading this is to some.

Are you bothered by Jesus healing the servant of the Centurion without the servant ever seeing Jesus?

Are you bothered by what Jesus said to the men carrying the paralytic in Mark 2 (When Jesus saw their faith...)

Are you bothered by the Old Testament's requirement that before entering into the People of God, one must be circumcised - TO INCLUDE INFANTS?

God has always allowed faithful men and women to act in proxy for another. While it might appear to be less common (since Christianity was in an infancy stage itself) than adult baptism, it doesn't follow that God doesn't accept one person's faith to step in for another. God is Merciful.

Regards Regards

8 posted on 11/29/2006 9:53:01 AM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Nope. Not even logical to baptize before one has faith or even knowledge of the Lord. How sad I would have been to think that I was baptized before I could do so out of my own obedience. How misleading this is to some.

Exactly! I was baptized < after > I was born again, and had professed my Faith in Jesus Christ. Before that time, I only knew "of" Jesus Christ. After accepting Him as my Savior, I knew "who" Jesus Christ was, and I knew that the sprinkle baptism that I had received as a baby would not work. After 'meeting' Jesus, I KNEW that I had to be immersed in the water to be baptized. I had already read in the Bible about Jesus going down to the river to be immersed into the water by John the Baptist. Since He did it that way, that was proof to me that I needed to do it the same way. He went down to the river when He could have told John the Baptist to fill a bowl with water and sprinkle Him, so I did it His way. I was immersed. :o)

51 posted on 11/29/2006 2:46:37 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't!)
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