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To: sionnsar

I pray Iker and Duncan don't blink. My prayer would be for the establishment of an Anglican Church United with Rome for the Catholic-minded Anglicans who wish to maintain their Anglican heritage without the garbage in The Episcopal Church.


3 posted on 11/28/2006 8:40:23 PM PST by Joseph DeMaistre (There's no such thing as relativism, only dogmatism of a different color)
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To: Joseph DeMaistre

I would probably attend an Anglican Catholic Church (by the Catholic definition of Catholic, meaning in union with Rome), as the rite is more beautiful and there is much of the Anglo-Saxon tradition that is appealing.

Of course that would require the union, and union with Rome is a theological step, not a political one.

I am hoping that the eruption of the Devil in the Episcopal Church, which is so obvious and so open, will allow Anglican catholics to see their way theologically to become Anglican Catholics, and that Rome will see its way politically to make sure that there is a full-up Anglican Rite, a 24th Catholic Rite, that stands alongside of the Byzantine Rite and the Syriac Rite, etc., as a true rite of the Church (as distinguished from a Latin Rite indulgence). The difference is key: an indulgence can be removed, a rite cannot be abolished.

For union to take place, there needs to be a parallel movement. THEOLOGICALLY, Anglican catholics need to accept that the primacy of Rome is NOT political but spiritual and biblical, and accept it. POLITICALLY, Rome needs to accept that the Reformation cannot be undone, and that the Anglican Rite, while it was once a spiritual province of the Latin Rite, cannot be brought back into the Latin Rite. It is a separate Rite in its own right now, and that it requires its own independent patricarchal existence as a full PEER of the Latin Rite and the Eastern Rites. The old ecclesial line that gave England to Rome is broken forever by 500 years of history. The Anglicans, I believe, could make the spiritual and theological trek back to Catholicism: the need to Infallible divine power in the face of the literal Dedvil run amok is now so obvious. But the English are not going to be spiritually subordinate to the Italians again.
An Anglican Rite, which is not subordinate to the Latin Rite but IS subrodinate to the Pope, is the theological and political answer. The English get to win the political gain of the Reformation, but Rome wins the theological point. It's the only way.


4 posted on 11/29/2006 7:20:47 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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