[Ottofire]

--Accusing Catholics of worshipping Mary is bearing false witness again, Ottofire.

I do not agree that saying 'Hail Mary' is anything but a prayer to her as a divine being. Just as I do not agree with the Muslim that Allah is not the God of the Bible. Is that bearing false witness? No. It is stating an opinion.

As to Mary as the New Eve, do the Catholics Venerate Eve also? Are there statues of Eve that people kneel in front of and pray to?

[Claud]

As to Mary as the New Eve, do the Catholics Venerate Eve also? Are there statues of Eve that people kneel in front of and pray to?

Adam and Eve are definitely saints...in the East their feast is December 24th. Although in the East, they don't use statues, only icons, so probably not. :)

[bornacatholic]

You started thsi thread by maiking a claim about Irenaeus not using Tradition. Citing Irenaeus himself, you have been proven wrong.

Will you admit your error or will you just switch topics and begin making additional unjustified and ahistorical accusations?