Posted on 11/27/2006 3:45:02 PM PST by Joseph DeMaistre
As do I. I think a freeper once posted that if in a position where someone was forced to use it, to think of it as "Christian Era" and "Before Christian Era." :)
he falsely miscasts the value pluralist aspects so fundamental to American democracy society as "nihilism" and "moral relativism." More ominously, he sees his flock not as much as living as citizens in America democracy, but as part of "a kingdom."
The Kingdom of Heaven, maybe? Sorry, but when the Son of Man comes to Judgment sitting on the clouds of glory, you don't get to vote on it.
How can we advocate for distributive justice in a pluralistic society? We can't impose our values on people who hate the poor and take away their right to exploit the poor for financial gain in a pluralistic society? We can't support government welfare, in a pluralistic society, when there are others who seek the truth without coercion. Pluralistic society. Pluralistic society.
This is news??
If these people really believed in a pluralistic society, they would have enough room for traditionally minded people who believe in God, Country, family and an ascetic morality.
They aren't pluralists in practice. They are narrow-minded dogmatists who are guided above all by hedonism, narcissism, self-absorption
and self-destruction. Anyone who gets in their selfishness is the problem. The irony is, although they deny it, they believe everyone has to think the way they do.
But that's part of human nature. It's a matter of having enough humility to look at your own problems before pointing the finger at others. They are moral absolutists whether they want to admit it or not, just not the kind of absolutes that are in civilization's best interest.
The barbarians would be proud.
Dear Bishop Finn may be the one of the great saints of these days keeping Missouri from burning under the wrath of God. And I mean, burning.
After he cleans up things there, perhaps he should be moved to Los Angeles.
We already know about Finn.
I was referring to Cocozelli's (who?) miserable opinion of him.
I got to meet Bishop Finn when I was out in Missouri, campaigning against Amendment 2. I definitely got a good impression from him. May he receive a red hat someday!
Were you never an Altar Boy? I wouldn't say that it inflicts pain, exactly ... but it can get awfully hot in the Summertime, wearing a cassock and surplice over dress clothes (including a necktie).
Uh no. If he means Catholic liberalism, then he is definately wrong. The midwest Catholic church is however more independent from politics, unlike in many places in the northeast like Boston.
They can try to turn Conservative Catholics against each other, but so did the Communists and the French Revolution. They failed. Catholics have the papacy and the magisterium to act as their Northern star.
Evangelicals do not. Protestantism inevitably collapses when confronted by Revolution. The Catholic Church suffers blows, but has always proven resilient in the long run.
Secularism may have the upper hand today, but it may not 200 years from now. Progressive "Catholics" aren't Catholic, period.
When I first saw BCE and CE I read it without thinking as Before Christian Era and Christian Era. I thought it was just
the academic writer in Biblical Archaeology Review getting fancy with the terms. When I found out it was supposed to be Common Era it just seemed contrived and petty.
That is Eastern Rite, yes? I am amazed. When out of area (I am Roman Rite) for Sunday I have always looked for an Eastern Rite Mass because I expect that I will find no dancing girls and no innovative priests either, just a proper predictable orthodox Mass. Going into strange Roman rite churches when in another city, I have found them, indeed, strange.
I would disagree with that. Many examples to the contrary. But the problem in the US for both cultural Catholics, and cultural Protestants is that most in the the US have no real sense of history. Each generation seeks to reinvent themselves (which is normal in a way), but for the last hundred years or so in the USA, the older generation has not transmitted their values. So we get where we are today.
I am referring to those Catholics who are committed to their faith.
In which case you are probably correct. But a committed non Catholic Christian can also weather the gales of revolution.
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