[papertyger]

I don't think anyone claimed that they are the same.

That was a direct quote.

But why do you think that they are mutually exclusive?

One does not teach solemn formulae to children with the expectation they'll know said formulae are "pet indulgences."

Similarly, why would St. Jude care if one published the assertion prayers through him "get it done."

[adiaireton8]

That was a direct quote.

No it wasn't.

One does not teach solemn formulae to children with the expectation they'll know said formulae are "pet indulgences."

Where did anyone claim that "solemn formulae" are "pet indulgences"?

Similarly, why would St. Jude care if one published the assertion prayers through him "get it done."

This sentence does not make sense to me, and does not even appear to be grammatical.

-A8