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To: steadfastconservative
Steadfast...try and help me out here. I am a bit confused about this post...

ATTENTION: LISTEN CLOSELY! PARTICULARLY THE CATHOLICS ON THIS THREAD WHO WANT TO HAVE A PITTY PARTY BECAUSE THEY THINK A SAINT WAS PICKED ON. THIS ARTICLE IS NOT AN ATTACK ON CATHOLICS!

*I was correcting the record. I do object to having Saints falsely labeled antisemites. How is that a pity party?

IT IS AN ARTICLE CONTAINING STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED ANTISEMITIC THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WITHIN THE REALM OF CHRISTIANITY.

*That is merely question-begging. I don't consider the quotes I dealt with antisemitic. There certainly is not common argreement those saints were antisemitic

WHETHER THEY ARE TRULY ANTI-SEMITIC OR NOT IS IRRELEVANT.

*So, the truth does not matter. It is the seriousness of the charge...now, where have I heard that before?

WHETHER A CHURCH FATHER SAID IT OR JOE CHURCHGOER SAID IT IS IRRELEVANT.

*If it IS irrelevant, then WHY put the words into the mouth of a Saint and mischaracterise it as antisemtiism?

WHETHER A CATHOLIC SAID IT OR A BAPTIST SAID IT IS IRRELEVANT.

* I don't think so. I don't se a single protestant quoted. Am I to believe only Catholics are antisemitic?

PEOPLE FROM THE JEWISH FAITH HAVE BEEN ATTACKED BY PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY FOR CENTURIES.< READ A HISTORY BOOK! LOOK AT THE QUOTES AND TRY, JUST TRY, TO SEE WHY SOMEONE COULD SEE THEM (IN WHATEVER CONTEXT THEY ARE IN) AS A PERSONAL ATTACK ON THEMSELVES.

*The quotes are taken out of context. I proved that. And why are lies about Catholic Sainst to be accepted at face-value and why should we Catholics not think that a personal attack?

THE SAME OFFENSE ALL OF THE CATHOLICS ARE TAKING ON THIS THREAD IS THE SAME OFFENSE JEWS HAVE FELT FOR CENTURIES -

*If Jews were misquoted to cast them in the worst possible light, they have every right to object. Every right and every duty.

MINUS THE EXPULSION FROM "CHRISTIAN" COUNTRIES, THE BETRAYAL FROM "CHRISTIAN" NAZIS, AND THE BLINDING SILENCE TO OUTRIGHT ANTAGONISM OF "CHRISTIAN" LEADERS AND COUNTRIES TODAY TO THE PROBLEMS WHICH ISRAEL FACES.

*What, exactly, is a christian Nazi? Is that sort of like a Christian Klansman?

TRY TO GET OUT OF YOUR ASSININE ARGUMENTATIVE MODE AND SEE THE POINT. IT MAY BE HARD, BUT TRY!!!!!

*I guess the point is to admit guilt even when the charges are acknowledged as based upon untruths?

50 posted on 11/20/2006 1:11:02 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic

I wish I could make sense of Blogger's post but I can't because it doesn't.
Just because Jews might interpret a saint's remarks as being anti-semitic, doesn't mean that those remarks were, in fact, anti-semitic. Moreover, Blogger is wrong to imply that the Nazis were Christians. Naziism was an anti-Christian ideology and the Nazis persecuted and killed many Christians.

But my question is, what is the point of bringing this up? What purpose does it serve to go over the same tired litany of sins that Christians have committed against Jews over the course of the centuries? Most Christians today are not anti-Semitic and it is Muslims, not Christians, who are fueling the current resurgence of anti-semitism around the world. It isn't Chrisitans who threaten Israel. Ignoring the current threat while fixating on a threat that no longer exists does not make sense.


57 posted on 11/21/2006 5:04:45 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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