[Dr. Eckleburg]

"factored into His omnipotent knowledge of His own creation." -- The above is what you wrote, E.

Thank you, x, for helping us all understand just how Arminius prevaricated and deflected, twisting the truth into lies by your example of quoting half my sentence, thus missing the point entirely.

I wrote: "Nothing precedes God's determining will. If He thought it at the moment of creation, then it's set in stone because even His hypothetical "change of mind" would be factored into His omnipotent knowledge of His own creation."

Until we get you to address this, it is impossible for me to move on. I consider this an issue of straightforwardness.

And I consider this an issue of honesty. You are Arminius' offspring.

[xzins]

I quoted your entire sentence in #574. We are now discussing the details of the statement itself. There is no need to continuously cite entire units when the pieces are being individually discussed.

The piece I was discussing actually does say that God can work anything into His plan.....which would be everything that is.

This does open the question if God knows everything because He is omniscient, or if He knows everything because He is omnipotent.

It has to be because He is omniscient in its own right. God does not NEED to direct every action that is.

In the taming of the frontier, the new American government discovered that they didn't need to control every inch of every river. They could do so by controlling the junctures of major rivers.

So with time and events. God knows the important junctures.