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To: Forest Keeper
I'm not denying that the Persons of the Trinity have unique roles in creation and redemption. But only created things have "purpose". God is His own end; He is not "made for something".

-A8

511 posted on 11/22/2006 9:14:12 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8; Forest Keeper
But only created things have "purpose"

"Only created beings have purpose," and since God is not a created being, you are stating God has no purpose???

"For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back? -- Isaiah 14:27

"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." -- Romans 8:28

"For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth" -- Romans 9:11

"In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will" -- Ephesians 1:11

"According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord" -- Ephesians 3:11

"Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began" -- 2 Timothy 1:9


513 posted on 11/22/2006 9:47:27 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: adiaireton8; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
I'm not denying that the Persons of the Trinity have unique roles in creation and redemption. But only created things have "purpose". God is His own end; He is not "made for something".

Remember Harley's simple and straightforward question (to which your above applies):

Can you point FK and myself to some concise doctrinal writing that clearly defines the purpose of Holy Spirit from the Catholic perspective?

How can you honestly translate that into a created/uncreated issue about the existence of God? NOBODY around here on any side believes that any of the persons of God were created. Harley was simply reporting what he found on a popular Catholic website, that is often used as a source by Catholics on FR. We are asking you if you can further explain these findings.

531 posted on 11/24/2006 12:14:03 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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