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To: HarleyD
why would He elect them and then unelect them?

I never claimed, nor do I believe, that God "elects them and then unelects them".

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494 posted on 11/22/2006 4:12:46 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; 1000 silverlings; Lord_Calvinus; blue-duncan; ...
How do you know what my way is, since I have not described it? – Post 492

Therefore, how do you know that in Col 3:12, Paul is using the term 'elect' to mean "elect to glory" and not "elect to grace"? – Post 493

I never claimed, nor do I believe, that God "elects them and then unelects them". – Post 494

You make three statements in a row that either contradict one another or simply show the silliness of your argument. You claim that you haven’t described what it means to be “elected” (Post 492); yet in Post 493 you claim that the term could mean “elect to grace”. Are you saying this is the definition or do you just wish to argue? In post 494 you tell me that God can’t “unelect” people but you offer no definitions. How do you know without a definition? I would tend to agree with Post 494 in which you state that you have not defined the term elect. In fact, I would go so far as to say that it is impossible for you to defined the term “elect” at this point.

You can’t and have not define elect. You can’t and have not define faith. You tell me the Holy Spirit has no purpose and you cannot point me to any concise Catholic teaching on the Holy Spirit nor can you define Him. And you clearly don’t understand the Catholic position on atonement. At this point I would suggest you should investigate Scott Hahn’s theology course, not me as someone pointed out. I would hope that he would know a bit more about these matters.

522 posted on 11/23/2006 2:48:14 AM PST by HarleyD (Mat 19:11 "But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.)
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