What seems probable and "logical" to the proverbial (metaphorical) "frog in a well".. communicating to other frogs in other wells.. is drama waiting to happen..
Indeed what is logic.. and logical and real?...
1st reality and 2nd reality loom in the future of such a conversation.. I see where you are going with this.. Its been done before on Free Republic(in threads) as a sidebar.. but never(in my experience) as the main conduit of conversation..
Suggested title of the thread...
What are you "Observing" while vacationing on this planet?...
With, you know, a few words of encouragement.. d;-)..
Indeed, logic like so many other conceptualizations come back to the "observer problem" and, as you say, for many among us, a "second reality" as well.