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To: HarleyD
Where in the article does it deny that the Holy Spirit indwells a person? And where does the Catholic Church deny the "blood atonement of Christ"?

-A8

430 posted on 11/21/2006 7:59:48 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8; Forest Keeper
Where in the article does it deny that the Holy Spirit indwells a person? And where does the Catholic Church deny the "blood atonement of Christ"?

The Holy Spirit, according to Catholic definition, is nothing more that the Word, and wisdom, of God.

Now I will confess the article is extremely unclear on the precise doctrine of the Holy Spirit. I've read the article four times now and can't make heads or tails out of it. FK could be right that the Catholic belief is that He pops in from time to time. However this isn't the way I read the article nor is it what I've been told by some Catholics. I read the doctrine of the Church and have been told by Catholics that the Holy Spirit is nothing more than the wisdom of God coming from His word (oops).

All this makes me wonder what do the Catholics believe on the Holy Spirit? It is confusing because different Catholics denominations as noted in the article (another oops) hold all sorts of differing opinions on the matter. If you so believe in the Holy Spirit, how do you know that you have Him? Isn't that all part of our faith discussion? Do you believe in the Holy Spirit and does He guide you? How do you know?

Atonement - As far as atonement, get with the times. The blood atonement was sooooooo 15th century. You need to update your theology with the latest thought coming out of the Vatican for the last 500 years. I would suggest reading up on the Atonement

According to Catholic theology for the last 500 years, Christ did not pay any penalty for our sins. It was only a sacrafice of love. Christ set the example of love. The first 1500 years the Church fathers were just barbaric savages to believe Christ ACTUALLY paid our sinful debt. I would have expected that they taught you this in Cathecism.
447 posted on 11/22/2006 1:46:53 AM PST by HarleyD (Mat 19:11 "But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.)
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