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To: adiaireton8
[ How have you shown the following statement to be false?]

We just went over that.. (Dyslexic question)

424 posted on 11/21/2006 6:30:53 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: hosepipe
Saying that a person is "chasing his tail" does not show that his statement is false.

-A8

429 posted on 11/21/2006 7:55:35 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: hosepipe; adiaireton8
Perhaps this will help explain why hosepipe's assertion of circular reasoning was a successful debunking of the assertion:

Petitio Principii

I. Petitio Principii: (circular reasoning, circular argument, begging the question) in general, the fallacy of assuming as a premiss a statement which has the same meaning as the conclusion.

[many examples at the source]

III. The reason petitio principii is considered to be a fallacy is not that the inference is invalid (because any statement is indeed equivalent to itself), but that the argument can be deceptive. A statement cannot prove itself. A premiss must have a different source of reason, ground or evidence for its truth from that of the conclusion.


432 posted on 11/21/2006 8:31:27 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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