I do not understand or comprehend human beings, and they are anything but tidy. I place my trust in Christ and in the saving work of Christ who is a man and more than a man, and therefore messy and incomprehensible. Regular people are incomprehensible. How much more the incarnate Son of God!
How can there be any disagreement about the sequence in time of the Church and the Scriptures? There are writings. Somebody wrote them. The Church recognized, over a period of time, that these writings were special. Do you have an alternative history in which the Bible precedes the people who wrote the books, read them, gathered them, and set the collection apart? I don't see that that means the Scriptures are superceded. And I don't see that Sunday worship means the Scriptures are superceded. Once you have Pentecost and the Apostolic Conference saying "It seems good to us and to the Holy Spirit" then the top is blown off a lot of things, and you can count on its being a heck of a ride from here on out.
To the best of my recollection what you said was that RCs said we "created" the Scriptures. That's different.
And if you are going to insist that Catholics "worship" Mary then you are a victim of a lie. I don't see how you could make such comments and then complain about being handled roughly.
I don't get the remark about exclusionary language.
Most Catholics have no clue what their religion is all about. God is not merciful to willful disobedience, so many live happily and purposefully in blissful ignorance and delegate their salvation to the clergy.Yep and a WHOLE Lot of Protestants don't know what Catholicism is about either, but they are so sure that they DO know that they simply can't learn what we do teach. They don't want to know, they want to tell us instead.
Threads I've started don't appear on my home page, so I don't see what policymaker's home page has to do with whether or not he is a troll. In any event, the question is interesting, IMHO. I think the best way to see what the thread was about is to read the initial post. I did so. It was a question about the doctrine of the Trinity.
Putting your faith in Christ is the best thing you've posted yet. God and Jesus are incomprehensible to the carnal mind, but what they want from us is a pretty easy to locate recurring theme in the Bible. Holding to the doctrines of human beings ain't it.
How can there be any disagreement about the sequence in time of the Church and the Scriptures? There are writings. Somebody wrote them. The Church recognized, over a period of time, that these writings were special. Do you have an alternative history in which the Bible precedes the people who wrote the books, read them, gathered them, and set the collection apart? I don't see that that means the Scriptures are superceded. And I don't see that Sunday worship means the Scriptures are superceded. Once you have Pentecost and the Apostolic Conference saying "It seems good to us and to the Holy Spirit" then the top is blown off a lot of things, and you can count on its being a heck of a ride from here on out.
Diego has some incredible research on these two topics. First, when the New Testament was penned, Jerusalem was HQ, not Rome. The people who wrote the New Testament never called themselves Catholic and they all kept the seventh day Sabbath. None of them referred to God as being a three-headed Janus, either. Further, the Day of Pentecost was a Holy Day prior to the one in Acts. There is a reason all the Apostles were together that day - to celebrate one of God's Sabbaths! The fact that it fell on a Sunday that particular year was a coincidence.
And if you are going to insist that Catholics "worship" Mary then you are a victim of a lie. I don't see how you could make such comments and then complain about being handled roughly.
Yet you offer no scripture to refute my original comment.
Yep and a WHOLE Lot of Protestants don't know what Catholicism is about either, but they are so sure that they DO know that they simply can't learn what we do teach. They don't want to know, they want to tell us instead.
Protestantism did a whole lot of good, but to not return to God's Sabbath makes me wonder what exactly they are protesting? You already said you don't know what your church teaches (or the fact that you call yourself Catholic doesn't mean you understand the avalanche or some other colorful metaphor), so what's the big deal? Are you assuming that only Catholics can study Catholicism? Or are you saying that if anyone studies Catholicism, they must ultimately call themselves Catholic? I don't get it. I was Catholic, I thought it was founded in scripture, I read the scripture and found out differently. Then I went on a crusade to find out where that crap came from and how it got into my head. It is an entirely circular set of doctrine that all ultimatley starts and ends with "because we say so". I have a whole lot of respect for the Catholics who actually admit this and it ends the debate for me. To me, Catholics who try to revise-in extra-biblical teachings into the scriptures are actually denying the very foundation of their faith.
Threads I've started don't appear on my home page, so I don't see what policymaker's home page has to do with whether or not he is a troll. In any event, the question is interesting, IMHO. I think the best way to see what the thread was about is to read the initial post. I did so. It was a question about the doctrine of the Trinity.
Every post/thread you have made shows up in your "in forum" section. You've been a FReeper for quite a long time to not know this. It is also searchable by google. This thread was on the troll's page for the first few days and then it disappeared. I was clicking it to see if he was going to respond to any posts. I do find it interesting that there are over 1400 pings on this thread and only 200 replies.
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