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To: Mad Dawg
Second, he is not alone in the assertion that there is Scriptural warrant for celebrating "the Lord's Day" rather than the pre-resurrection sabbath.

This is a position contrary to the teachings and doctrinal holdings of the Catholic church. There is no scriptural warrant for any Sabbath other than the one God created in Genesis and spoke to the Hebrews in Exodus.

1Th 5:2 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night.

Sunday has yet to catch me by surprise.

The trinity is also a doctrinal invention of the church at Rome. The Father and the Son are two seperate entities, if scripture is your guide.

Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

Mat 16:17 And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Mat 26:53 "Or do you think that I cannot appeal to My Father, and He will at once put at My disposal more than twelve legions of angels?

I write boldly because I have confidence in my faith and the doctrines I hold. I understand that what I do here comes with great responsibility

Jam 3:1 Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment. Jam 3:2 For we all stumble in many ways. If anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to bridle the whole body as well.

I also readily admit that I do not have all the answers. If someone can show me irrefutable scripture that I should believe God is really some sort of Janus with 3 heads, then I will take the correction. If someone can show me the scripture relocates the Sabbath to the Day of the Sun, then I will take the correction.

Deu 4:19 "And beware not to lift up your eyes to heaven and see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, and be drawn away and worship them and serve them, those which the LORD your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.

183 posted on 11/21/2006 8:10:12 AM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: kerryusama04
Repetition is not an argument.You are merely demonstrating what I said about your approach. You insist that your misunderstanding is correct and then attribute it to your interlocutor and then tell him he's wrong.

It is quite entirely possible the the phrase "The Lord's Day" might mean different things in different contexts, in which case your citation is nonsense

A Cardinal's saying something does not make it de fide, consequently your characterizaton of what I said is incorrect.

If you think you're going to suck me into playing your game, think again. You're just showing yourself more interested in looking like you've won some logomachy than in learning anything.

You need a hobby.

184 posted on 11/21/2006 9:12:09 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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To: kerryusama04
Sunday has yet to catch me by surprise.

I'm going to remember that one!

The phrase “the day of the Lord” is used nineteen times in the Old Testament (Isaiah. 2:12; 13:6: 13:9; Ezekiel 13:5; 30:3; Joel 1:15; 2:1; 2:11; 2:31; 3:14; Amos 5:18 [2 times], Amos 5:20; Obadiah. 15; Zephaniah. 1:7; 1:14 [2 times]; Zechariah 14:1; Malachi. 4:5) and four times in the New Testament (Acts 2:20; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 2 Peter 3:10). It is also alluded to in other passages (Rev. 6:17; 16:14). These scriptures are usually showing events taking place at the end of history.

The phrase "The Lord's Day" is used only one time in [Revelation 1:10] and John is not sitting at the beach on Patmos some Sunday morning writing this phrase. He has been brought forward in time "in the Spirit"[Revelation 4:2] to the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord.

The Roman Church has attempted to use this single phrase to somehow justify their doctrinal error of ignoring the Sabbath. They cannot find a scripture that will show a Sunday resurrection to fit their theology so they attempt to manufacture things of this nature to somehow show a Sunday connection.

It is so amazing to me that they go to these lengths in attempting to justify the sanction of a heathen day of worship over that of The Lord.

193 posted on 11/21/2006 2:36:59 PM PST by Diego1618
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