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To: norge

"major "sacrament" of the fundamentalist movement"

It was never a "sacrament" of the Fundamentalist movement. The phrase "abstain from the sale and use of intoxicating drink as a beverage" is incorporated into many church Covenants, liberal and conservative. I represent many ABC churches, Baptist churches and Pentecostal churches that are not dispensational or Fundamentalist churches that have that in their Covenant. The phrase is not usually found in the Constitutions or Bylaws of the churches nor is it usually a condition of membership. It is a goal they seek to practice, like attendance at church meetings, tithing and helping one another.


125 posted on 11/05/2006 5:43:19 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan
First, "sacrament" was used somewhat facetiously to denote a firm belief held by many Fundamentalists, hence the use of quotes.

Second, with all due respect, did you even read my post? If you did, and you maintain your argument, do you mean to suggest that anti-alcoholism sprang full blown from the womb of Women's Suffrage and the Temperance movement alone?

Third, did you read the original article?

Or do you simply like to argue?

I maintain that nothing in your previous post challenges anything I said in mine, and nothing in my post contradicts anything in your post. As with most historical movements, anti-alcoholism can claim more than one parent

I also maintain, that until the beginning of the evangelical enthusiasm which sprang from the millenialism of the mid 1800's, having an alcoholic drink was quite commom among Christians (obviously, there were some Christian groups who didn't condone alcohol) and was not routinely condemned.

Fundamentalism, one of the off-shoots of dispensationalism, which itself is one of the off-shoots of millenialism, up until recently has made it almost a commandment not to drink alcohol, among many other prohibitions, witness many of the posts in this thread. The mighty Temperance Movement, of which you speak, has virtually disappeared. Temperance today is mostly found in Fundamentalism/Evangelicalism.

126 posted on 11/05/2006 6:29:59 PM PST by norge
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