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Envy — It’s a Killer
CatholicExchange.com ^ | 11-04-06 | Fr. James Farfaglia

Posted on 11/04/2006 1:40:19 PM PST by Salvation

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To: Tax-chick

So envy is the desire for something that you are not supposed to have?


41 posted on 11/04/2006 2:24:54 PM PST by cornelis
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To: Tax-chick
Envy and jealousy are probably the two most destructive emotions humans have.

They go hand in hand and unchecked lead straight to the destruction of human beings.

The most dangerous combination is an envious person with a little bit of power over others. Such a person is to be feared, despised, and if possible destroyed.

L

42 posted on 11/04/2006 2:25:37 PM PST by Lurker (“A liberal thinks they can sleep in, and someone will cover their lame ass.” Ted Nugent)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota; LibKill

But if you used the word "admire" instead of envy is it still a sin? In this instance you could say "I admire my friend Mike and how he's lived his life and the choices he's made." Is there a difference between admiring someone and envying them?


43 posted on 11/04/2006 2:27:36 PM PST by pesto
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To: cornelis

I don't understand what you mean by a "social" sin.

Isn't ALL sin social in aspect, because it harms all other humans?


44 posted on 11/04/2006 2:28:12 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
A few years back I read a sociological book (I think it was just titled "Envy") on envy in cultures. Parts I skipped since it was sometimes dry but it was mostly very interesting and eye opening. I recall reading some primitive cultures will not bring back their quarry (is that the right word?) in view of other hunters. To do so would violate their ethics since it might instill envy. There were many other fascinating stories of envy or the way in which cultures evolve to limit envy.

It changed my perception quite a bit since there is a whole lot more envy out there than most people see.
45 posted on 11/04/2006 2:28:18 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: Lurker

Strange, we know it's bad, but I'm not exactly sure what it is. Websters says it's a resentment against the advantage of others.


46 posted on 11/04/2006 2:28:37 PM PST by cornelis
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To: Salvation
I am so-o happy you posted this. I literally just read this on another site and wondered what fellow Freepers would say. Thank you for posting this.

It really gave me a lot to chew on and to reflect on in both myself and in those around me. Envy is so pervasive.

One thing that struck me is how older folks can envy young children and even then they take them down and the child thinks it is their problem and extinquish this quality that threatens others, when usually it is a God given strength/trait. I think this happens a lot even in well meaning people and in Christian families.

47 posted on 11/04/2006 2:29:54 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: LibKill

You forgot to mention that you also live in the greatest nation on the face of God's green earth!
More power to you; you sound like you've got the best of one of the deadly sins!


48 posted on 11/04/2006 2:30:52 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: pesto

It could be envy. Look at my #39. I have decided to be grateful instead of covetous.


49 posted on 11/04/2006 2:31:14 PM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Salvation

Yes, I suppose all sins in some way involve people. Yet some sins are more against oneself than another. Greed doesn't require another person, envy does.


50 posted on 11/04/2006 2:32:33 PM PST by cornelis
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
Sheesh! How could I forget!

I am reminded of something I heard on a radio talk show a while back.

They were asking some guy in a third world country why he wanted to go to America.

"I want to go where the poor people are fat!"

I only hope he got his wish.

51 posted on 11/04/2006 2:33:46 PM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: GOP Poet

**Envy is so pervasive.**

Yes, the secular world would have us think that "envy" and wanting to beat down those around us who might have more (of anything:
stuff, money, brains, degrees, awards, body of the slim type, etc. LOL!) is OK.

Did I catch everything there?

NTW, thanks for your kind words.


52 posted on 11/04/2006 2:33:49 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: GOP Poet
older folks can envy young children

Is there a difference between envy and jealousy?

53 posted on 11/04/2006 2:34:19 PM PST by cornelis
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

**You forgot to mention that you also live in the greatest nation on the face of God's green earth! **

And that we have the right to vote freely!

Shall I tell you how to vote here? No, I don't think so. Just vote.


54 posted on 11/04/2006 2:35:46 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: pesto

Absolutely; two different things there. Envy doesn't mean you want to have exactly that which is the others but you do want to have what the other has...and just a little more or just a little better brand. There is that aspect of superiority as mentioned in the article. The simple life facet of "keeping up with the Jones'" can easily be the sin of envy, IMHO.


55 posted on 11/04/2006 2:35:56 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: GOP Poet

OOPS!

BTW, thanks for your kind words.


56 posted on 11/04/2006 2:37:15 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: cornelis

"Is there anything missing from that answer? Why the hatred? What is the motivation for the wickedness? What causes the anger?"

The source of all of these is the Evil One. The Fathers were quite clear on this. +Anthony the Great worte extensively on the subject.


57 posted on 11/04/2006 2:38:21 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
Another thing that is difficult to sort out -- as the article alludes to is ambition.
58 posted on 11/04/2006 2:38:21 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: cornelis
Strange, we know it's bad, but I'm not exactly sure what it is. Websters says it's a resentment against the advantage of others.

Ask someone to define "irony" and then sit back and enjoy the blank stare.

Webster is correct as usual. It is a resentment against the advantage, real or imagined, of others.

It's the motivation for all kinds of evils. It's the reason kids shoot each other over sneakers and jackets. It's the reason redistributionist schemes nearly always enjoy wide public support.

It's also dangerously easy to fall into being envious. One must guard oneself constantly lest it take over.

As I said above envy combined with a bit of power over others is quite often lethal.

L

59 posted on 11/04/2006 2:40:17 PM PST by Lurker (“A liberal thinks they can sleep in, and someone will cover their lame ass.” Ted Nugent)
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To: cornelis
Yes, though often the distinction is ignored.
Envy is a "material thing" sort of issue, eg the Jones' new car.
Jealousy is a "person thing" sort of issue, eg. jealous lovers.
60 posted on 11/04/2006 2:40:36 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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