The Lost Soul of Scott Hahn

The Berean Beacon ^ | John W. Robbins

[irishjuggler]

Some of the more conservative churches have been led astray by Reconstructionism, by religiously cooperative efforts in the anti-abortion movement,

Better that there be abortions than to cooperate with those diabolical Romanists!

[irishtenor]

I like the one about "demonic influence."

[vladimir998]

Alex,

You posted: "the corruption of the best is the worst."

What corruption? Hahn has an excellent reputation as to his personal behavior, for instance. It is amazing to me that webnuts, who often know little or nothing about anything, assume they are in a position to judge someone, condemn him, and even claim his soul as lost without any evidence.

Hahn gave up Calvinism for historical Christianity. Oh, how terrible!

[Campion]

BECAUSE OF READER DEMAND

Actually, remembering back, I think it was publisher demand. Dr. Hahn gave talks at parishes on his conversion; one was recorded and became a rather famous tape for St. Joseph Communications, "Protestant Minister Becomes Catholic." After it had sold some ridiculous number of copies, Fr. Fessio of Ignatius press approached him and asked him to do a book version.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Please consider the import of that statement. Here are two graduates of a Presbyterian College, two students nearing completion of their studies at reputedly one of the best evangelical Protestant seminaries in the country, two professing Christians – and the meaning of justification is not all that important to them. As we shall soon see, despite – or rather because of – their education, the Hahns – especially Scott – could not defend the Reformation principles of the Bible alone, faith alone, and Christ alone.

What a surprise...not.

[Campion]

Evidently, since then-Mr. Hahn and Gerry Matatics spent a weekend holed up with Dr. John Gerstner in a motel in Pennsylvania, where Gerstner tried to convince them they were making a mistake ... and failed, even Dr. Gerstner couldn't adequately defend those "Reformation principles".

[Alex Murphy]

I like the one about "demonic influence."

Me, too! Bad devil! Bad, bad devil!

[vladimir998]

campion,

We're actually saying the same thing from different ends so to speak. Fr. Fessio knew Hahn's book would sell well precisely because so many people were fascinated by his audio and VHS tapes.

By the way, Monsignor Ronald Knox published his autobiography, A Spiritual Aeneid, when he was only 26! I guess our Reformed friends would consider him an egotist for that?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

For some people, agenda is more important than theology.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Very true.

[Campion]

[shrug]

You think that's only true of Protestants who become Catholics?

According to the way Dr. Hahn tells it, they went there hoping Gerstner could show them a way out. The left concluding that he was misrepresenting Catholic teaching, specifically by interpreting the canons of Trent without reference to the dogmatic decrees of Trent.

[vladimir998]

Neither could Knudsen -- who debated Hahn and was soundly crushed (in a very gentle way by a respectful Hahn).

What gets me is that Knudsen was "Dooyeweerdian and Van Tilian professor of apologetics at Westminster Seminary."

He wasn't a nobody. He wasn't a slouch. And what does Robbins say about this?

"I have listened to that debate on cassette tape, and Apologetics Professor Knudsen's performance is embarrassing and incompetent."

Uh, yeah.

[tioga]

I love Scott Hahn's books. We all have our own journeys and I find them interesting. He has a gift for reaching people with God's truth. Sounds like someone is jealous.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Wonder what Gerstner has to say about it. I doubt he thinks he was misrepresenting RCs.

[jude24]

From what I can tell the author is majorly bummed out about the Hahns becoming Catholic, but he doesn't bother to address the reasons except to say that Hahn likes Thomas Aquinas (wow, that's really radical).

So do I. Oddly, I've repeatedly been asked if I am "going Catholic" because I enjoy reading and citing Augustine and Aquinas. Why is this a Catholic thing only?

[jude24]

You gotta pity this poor soul who wrote this.

They seem to have derived their raison d'etre from their opposition to Catholicism - as though informed, reasonable Christians couldn't disagree.

[jude24]

specifically by interpreting the canons of Trent without reference to the dogmatic decrees of Trent.

Please explain.

[jude24]

Well, here is a little Scripture for the ex-priest. He doesn't have God

Gotta disagree there too. God is present outside the Roman Church (and, as a Reformed Christian, I have to say he is represented by the Roman Catholic Church too, however imperfectly.)

Far more concerning to me about this ex-priest is his hateful attitude towards Dr. Hahn - this is no irenic disagreement. This is a hit piece that embarrasses me as a Reformed Christian.

[franky]

Some facts on the writer and who he represents from the Catholic League.

http://www.catholicleague.org/research/trinity.htm

[Ottofire]

Hey Alex! You forgot to tag this thread "FOOD FIGHT!!!"

Lordy, Lordy!